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9 September 2010

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Gillard leading Labor off a cliff

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Bob Ellis

Bob Ellis

This was an election principally driven not by politicians, minders or party tacticians but working journalists.

David Marr brought Rudd down (with an opening sentence some lawyers argue was treason), Phillip Adams partly resurrected him with his broadcast confessional, Bryce Corbett (of the Women's Weekly) by raising her private life did great harm to Gillard from which Mark Latham, another journalist, bizarrely rescued her with a handshake; and then came Laurie Oakes, who all but finished off Gillard with the shocking news that negotiations preceded Rudd's exit and Cabinets often robustly disagree, and Kerry O'Brien who with his weekly skewering inquisitions reduced both candidates to gibbering wrecks.

No move by any campaign strategist or mining giant was as decisive as these journalists' interventions which were in their way as history-changing as Woodward and Bernstein.

And they changed history almost inadvertently, for none, I believe, were ideologically driven, merely sniffing blood. They raised some ordinary questions of ordinary behaviour and pretended they were important, beating them up, as they were trained to do, into livid, suppurating scandals.

They told some big lies too, perhaps out of ignorance, perhaps not. They called Rudd's ending unique: never before was a first, elected leader thus brought down, shock horror, lord, lord, the days that I have seen. Yet Gorton was brought down after his first win at an election and so was Menzies; and Whitlam after only thirty-five months in office was brought down too, by a secretive and unelected though scarcely faceless man. Curtin won a single election and was likewise foreshortened, and the party leaders Snedden, Hayden, Peacock, Howard and Latham evicted after one lost election, Downer, Crean, Nelson and Turnbull without even one. Yet we were told Rudd's fate was unique, and we believed this baseless fabrication and grew angry at the shock and the horror of it, the way we do. What fools these mortals be.

Another thing was the number of days these worthless, intrusive, distracting, trivial headlines chewed up. Rudd's interventions cost eight days; 'the new Julia' three; the Women's Weekly two; Mark Latham's brusque body language two; the debate format three; Abbott's unsleeping marathon two; leaving only 15 days out of 35 for debating policy difference.

We were told Abbott's choice not to sit on a stage but to stand upright in an auditorium was 'game-changing'. Why? It proved nothing; it meant nothing. We were told he would get little sleep for one whole night and this was somehow significant. Why? It meant nothing, nothing at all except that he was ambitious and physically disciplined, and we knew that already.

Subjects as big as the fate of the earth however were sidelined, and hair tinting, airbrushing, marriage - plans and old lovers contrastingly emphasised. The need for us to continue offering young Australian corpses to poll-cheating Karzais' unending bloodbath went unexamined (why?), but the fact that Gillard's former leader approached her on a street-walk was said to have 'crossed the line'. What line? That you cannot ask a candidate for office a question in a public place? What line?

Five young diggers died in a spurious cause while the election raged and this was fine. Mark Latham adopted a bullying tone and this was a national scandal.

Worst, I think, was what might be called the campaign's 'theological correctness'. Mary MacKillop must be praised though the Prime Minister, an atheist, by definition despised her religion. The Prime Minister, a defender of jobs, hailed free trade as irreducibly necessary, though it killed jobs right and left, as Bob Katter with poignant dingo yelps and chest-beatings correctly noted. The war must go on though next to no Australian soldier or civilian, not one, thought it should. It was theologically correct to say it should, and, lo, it will. The surplus must return, though thousands will suicide for want of income because it does. Taxes must not go up, though interest rates are always free to. Why? Please explain.

The Unexamined Idiotic Premise (UIP) was everywhere apparent in this lump-witted campaign. That Rudd, who had without mercy ended the careers of Beazley, Howard, Nelson, Debus, McMullan, Kerr, McKew and Garrett, himself deserved mercy and a new career, though they do not. Why? That Rudd deserved a high ministerial position after vilely maltreating the highest office of all. Why?

Most amazing was the UIP that assassins get honeymoons - believed by Gillard even as late as our conversation in the Penrith Panthers on August 20. "Had to go with the honeymoon," she said to me and Rhys Muldoon.

Assassins get honeymoons. Really? John Wilkes Booth was dead within five days, Lee Harvey Oswald within three. Brutus was deeply unpopular an hour after Caesar's death, hunted down and killed within a year. Keating was deeply unpopular immediately after he topped Hawke and his polls deep-sixed though they recovered later. Peacock was so unpopular after he topped Howard that he lost an unlosable election. Yet fools thought Gillard would get an automatic honeymoon after an uncontested ballot brought on at a day's notice and a felled Prime Minister outlining through tears his 800 achievements in a courtyard. A honeymoon period? Really?

And she will get none this time either. She has become through a bungled campaign, the worst since 1966 (when Arthur Calwell running against the Birthday Ballot and the Vietnam War lost 22 seats), that very strange thing, a powerless, genderless Prime Minister without influence or friends who is promising to 'open the curtains and let in the sunlight' after a lifetime of secrecy, flannel and backroom intrigue. So secretive that she wouldn't tell Rudd his fate, or the nation who her Finance, Defence or Foreign Ministers would be (why not?) or if she planned to marry Tim or when she would occupy The Lodge (why not?), or how she differed in significant policy from the man who had lost his way and why, if he had lost his way, she wanted the wandering drongo back, and why Cabinet discussions would 'go with me to my grave', she is now on a promise to let the sunlight in and be frank and open about everything. She is just So-o-o-o 2007' as a female friend just said to me and dizzyingly unsuited to the modern age.

The independents, by discussing things of real concern (like how the rural half live and what we do with our water) and restoring the old Athenian practise of thoughtful public discussion of things on the public mind have shown how wrong, how crashingly wrong has been the prevailing technique of whatever-it-takes and winning-the-24-hour-news-cycle and parroting-the-focus-group and dumbing-down-our-future-expectations and returning-to-surplus-by-2013-whatever-the-cost-to-our-civilisation, and she is the old-fashioned epitome of all that is wrong with media-tortured politics (as Faulkner, Debus, Turnbull, Tanner, Swan, Brown, Stott Despoja, Xenophon, Wilkie, McKew and, oh yes, Beazley, Hawke and Whitlam never were) and she really shouldn't be there.

Still, there she is. And so it goes. The veteran of 11 (count them) significant campaign mistakes that cost Labor its majority and its policy agenda and its earthly power and its humanist reputation, and so it goes.

Smiling still, in denial still, in spin-mode still, laughing prettily still and telling us not to worry, I'm 50-years-old and on a steep learning curve but not to worry, don't you worry about that, planning no significant change in ministry or policy and political manners (and what bad political manners she has, budgie-smugglers and mincing poodles, I mean, really) and walking breezily at the head of a lemming-throng over a crumbling cliff as she always does. And so it goes.

See how she goes.

And so it goes.

Bob Ellis' next book, Suddenly, Last Winter, is out this November.

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  • Madeleine Kingston :

    28 Sep 2010 10:16:45pm

    Your style is just unique. Hugely entertaining yes, but also sharp-witted, incisive and razor-sharp. Stylish journalism needs to stimulate discussion, challenge what is not working and provide some guidance to the public, especially in the arena of politics.

    They say that we mostly choose to read what reflects our own views. But where we are ignorant of the facts, and where we are exposed to incisive dissection of the harsh realities of politics - how can anyone but be influenced but what you have to say about the issues of the day.

    Thank you for raising issues of concern. We need leadership that inspires confidence at both federal and state level. We need stability and hope for the future.

    I have asked the question: Does the slogan "Moving Forward" mean more effective dialogue with the community and their needs.

    There is something to learn from hung Parliament results.

    Responsible journalism that highlights the issues we should focus on is just what we need.

    Carry on writing Bob on the subjects you know best.

    Regards

    Madeleine

  • Anthony S :

    22 Sep 2010 3:53:06pm

    Bob,

    I agree with you on so much. Particularly on the war in Afghanistan, and on the overblown reaction to Latham.

    But why do you talk about Kevin Rudd in the way you do? I can't understand it. The minute it dawned upon the country that he actually wasn't perfect or consistently appealing, he became rotten in people's minds. The same people who were aware of Howard's wrong-doings but felt utterly comfortable about continually re-electing him.

  • psf :

    14 Sep 2010 6:26:07pm

    I have arrived late at this dicussion. Bob's article was hugely entertaining, enlightening in parts but ultimately led the discussion down some irrelvant cul de sacs. Surely the main outline of the event is this:-

    Before Julia's coup an ad campaign funded by the miners, together with the Murdoch press, had the Rudd government sliding down the slope to being ejected from office by the only real decisionmakers in this country - the largely gormless minority in marginal seats who will actually move their vote between Labor and LNC.

    The leaders of the backbenchers (as distinct from the leaders of the government) found someone to replace Rudd who would at least buy off the miners, consult with the backbenchers and and try to do whatever else was needed to save as many of them as possible. And so Julia was duly installed.
    The damaging ad campaign ceased and, despite blunders on the campaign trail and a poisonous press, enough seats remained to negotiate a minority government with the independents and that new party of old Whitlamites, the Greens. In my favourite metaphor, the ship is down below its marks, there is a lot of loose seawater rolling around in the bilges and a capsize is still possible, but the vessel floats. Just.

    In this scenario, what are the grounds for complaining about Gillard's role? Would the Rudd government have survived without a change of leader? Not too many people seem to be saying so.
    Would someone else have made fewer tactical errors on things like the ETS? I havn't heard of anyone being suggested.
    Would the campaign have worked better if it had focussed on the positive, rather than negative attacks on Abbott? Who knows?
    Is there someone else who would do a better job of navigating between the Independents, the Greens, the backbenchers, the faction leaders and the toxic press and media in this country?
    I just hope nobody starts trying for a while, that would be all the press need.

  • fidel :

    14 Sep 2010 9:00:22am

    Bob, an interesting article.

    Aside from the lack lustre campaign from both sides, there is another aspect of the current minority Federal Government.

    If any ALP federal member decides to "go it alone", i.e., rat on the party, so as to obtain a favour for his or her own Federal Electorate by means of a threat to walk across the floor, then the present Prime Minister might be brought down.

    If influenza or other spreading infection sweeps through the Federal Chamber, say next winter, then the changing numbers due to absent sick members on both sides could produce some very interesting government.

    The same applies if a Federal MP needs to attend a funeral.

    The "pair" option might work. Then again,in politics, anything can happen and often does.

  • Damnthematrix :

    14 Sep 2010 6:15:45am

    And just this morning, the ABC News website told us:

    A new opinion poll shows support for both major political parties has fallen since the election, with a shift towards the Greens.

    The latest Newspoll published in The Australian today, shows the Greens and "other" category candidates saw a combined increase in the primary vote of about eight percent.

    And if voters returned to the polls today there would be another hung Parliament with the Government and Opposition locked at 50-50 on a two-party-preferred basis.

    SO there you go..... I too am unimpressed with both majors still. Maybe we should just go back to the polls over and over again until we end up with a government of only Greens and independents. Then maybe something would be done about the issues that REALLY matter....

    Overpopulation
    Peak Oil
    Peak Debt
    Climate Change

    Pisceans like me like to dream on...... :)

  • phil :

    14 Sep 2010 12:08:08am

    Spot on Bob, it was a media led insurection fueled by the greedy egos of useless politions - at least none of the above won

  • Anon :

    13 Sep 2010 10:36:24pm

    It's very difficult to argue with some lefties, Bob.

    They slander your motives, misrepresent your meaning and never accept the holes in their arguments. And that's when they can string a coherent sentence together.

    By arguing with some of them, you will hopefully realise how us righties feel like all the time.

      • Helvi :

        14 Sep 2010 8:01:50am

        You are right,Bob writes beautifully, maybe you Anon, and Abbott too, can apply to become his apprentices...

      • creamer :

        14 Sep 2010 12:13:29pm

        I know it must be very difficult to argue with the "lefties", Anon.

        Until the internet came along you never had to as they were pretty much excluded from the mainstream press and media. But those days are well and truly gone and ideas are beginning to be debated on their merits, not on the prejudices of media moguls. Everybody can have their say.

        Isn't it refreshing!

  • Daniel :

    12 Sep 2010 9:03:36am

    Bob,Good writing there. Yes only time will tell how long tis government will last. It is still good to see a woman in the top job but I have just seen on Channel 9 that she has rewarded the factional bosses. Seems like the ALP never learns. When will someone stand up to these right factions and especially Joe Tripodi?

  • Kane :

    10 Sep 2010 4:25:55pm

    As a voter who lacks the nuanced insight into the sand pit politics of the major parties, being familiar only with the sound bites and snapshot images of the evening news etc. I would say that the election was run as though Howard was back...from the moment Abbott did Turnbull over, derision, devision and denegration were once again the catch cry of the Coalition. Race cards were trumping reality long before the "campaign" was underway and the politics of Australian Liberal Hate were revived as if through a necromantic ritual drawing on the death throws of Turnbull's political corpse. Rudd's demise appeared to me to be in response to how he allowed the seething venom of Abbott to get traction and overshadow the worthwhile programmes of his government manifest in the backflip on the ETS and no double dissolution (to me and others of my ilk the only noble thing to do after Abbott derailed it). The tabloid quality of the media coverage of the campaign only served to reinforce preexisting notions that media is all tabloid and expectations remained, as a consequence, low.

    From this perspective I would like to say however, that what I have seen is Julia Gillard has successfully negotiated the mining heavy weights away from their hissy fits over the mining tax, she pulled Labor out of a nose dive by doing so and has managed to secure another term through negotiations with some pretty bright and politically astute independents and the Greens. where in this picture is the lemming cliff? Abbott and his shrill sidekick Pyne who failed to bring down the government through their campaigns of misinformation and appeal to popular ignorance also failed to secure a negotiable government. Why? Because they are incapable of negotiating, they see no need for it. They lost the 2007 election because they are driven by pride and have no compassion they operate on fear and garner insecurity...they were resoundingly defeated in 2007 and learnt nothing...their arrogance and more recently apparent conceit is the cliff face that like lemmings they are all falling off...we won't have a Liberal National coalition in government for years to come as the lemming culture of playing follow the leader with hate games shows no sign of diminishing in the near future...

    Lest we forget (work choices...)

  • Clotho :

    10 Sep 2010 3:51:13pm

    "... don't you worry about that,..."

    Really Bob!

    I just heard Joh Bjelkie Petersen turn in his grave.

    :-)

      • drjohn :

        14 Sep 2010 8:37:57pm

        I'm sure that's why Bob wrote it; in a jocular vein.

  • Rodders :

    10 Sep 2010 3:12:09pm

    You are right, Bob. The Australian media is at an all time low ebb. Instead of factual, objective, intelligent journalism we get only ego driven sensationalising drivel. And that includes the ABC.

      • yen :

        14 Sep 2010 3:53:09pm

        Quote:
        "...
        You are right, Bob. The Australian media is at an all time low ebb. Instead of factual, objective, intelligent journalism we get only ego driven sensationalising drivel. And that includes the ABC.
        ...."

        Perhaps Australia has the media Australia wants to have.

        or deserves to have....

  • raebrown ®:

    10 Sep 2010 1:48:36pm

    I'm almost beginning to like Bob's little Gothic-novel rambles, despite myself.

  • Lu Lu :

    10 Sep 2010 1:23:33pm

    Bob, What is the trip with Gillard ? Why all the crap about her marraige plans , her laugh , her political manners . Is it because she is a woman and some where deep in your old lefty soul ,you might be able to spout equality , but when it happens you turn into Tory .
    I believe Gillard is one of the most formidable politicians Australia has produced . Think about it she went for the centre of politics kept the votes of the unthinking and uneducated . Any one who cares about refugees /climate change/gay marraige ect voted Green . This vote went back to Labour via preferences , it also gave us a Senate hostile to the LNP . Over the last week she managed to get on board the Independants (who have signed their own death warrants ) . Voila !
    We will have one of the most progressive parliaments Australia has ever known . Gillard can always say (anything controversial ) it was the greens and the Independants who made me do it .
    Get used to having Queen Julia for a very long reign . I hope she doesn't get married or get a religion , it might please Sexist old buggers like you .

  • Chris from Perth :

    10 Sep 2010 1:21:27pm

    Beautifully written Bob.

  • Indigo Violets :

    10 Sep 2010 1:08:31pm

    The most amazing UIP is the one Bob Ellis operates on every time he writes an article about Gillard.

    She is singly the best option for prime minister Australia has had in almost four decades of living memory and is perhaps the best prime minister Australia will ever have (though only time can prove it).

    She got there against the odds, the greatest odd being an inherent misogyny in every one of Bob's articles on the topic of her leadership.

      • Bob Ellis :

        10 Sep 2010 7:05:55pm

        Please read in my responses below this the many, many female politicians I have said in print should have been Prime Minister and please, please list Gillard's achievements, one by one, as a Minister and Prime Minister.

        I believe there are none. Please correct me.

        Please say as well say why a candidate who loses sixteen seats is a good politician, and 'singly the best option for Prime Minister has had in almost four decades', and better than Whitlam, Cairns, Hayden, Hawke, Mick Young, John Dawkins, Paul Keating, Kim Beazley, Barry Jones, Carmen Lawrence, Cheryl Kernot, Natasha Stott-Despoja, Bill Shorten, Greg Combet, Maxine McKew, Mike Kelly, Wayne Swan, Lindsay Tanner, Bob Debus, Bob McMullan, John Faulkner, Malcolm Turnbull, Peter Costello, Nick Minchin, Bob Brown and Peter Andren.

        Please say why you believe this is so, and give reasons.

        Enlighten me.

          • Groucho :

            10 Sep 2010 10:00:11pm

            I've tried to enlighten you Bob,but the Mods goalie keeps blocking the ball.

          • Indigo Violets :

            10 Sep 2010 11:14:03pm

            Gosh Bob. A reply. Especially for me. How motivating. I have to respond.

            Ms Gillard is a brilliant Labor tactician and negotiator. During the Howard years I lost count of how many times Labor could have formed a coalition to trump John's, but never did because no Labor leader could pull the party together let alone draw in the Greens or independents.

            Gillard has broached what many said and wrote was an impossible gulf, navigating a workable path between Labor and the Green party and also between Labor and former Liberal coalition members.

            But there is more, Bob.

            For many years Australian politics was plagued by bullying and divisive behaviour, probably since its inception. This became especially evident in recent decades, within the two major parties particularly. How many articles the public had to read Bob, about leadership spills before Gillard!

            Suddenly, within weeks of Gillard taking the lead as prime minister, the nasty old back-stabbing and overly strident Australian political tenor began to miraculously change. And, many say, change for the better!

            In the mean old days an ex-party leader or ex-prime minister would never have been offered (almost immediately and by his successor) the prospect of managing a foreign affairs portfolio. But under Gillard that did become possible and Kevin has been offered such a prospect. Before this precedent, set by Gillard, the most an ex-leader might hope for in the way of a come-back was a very temporary interim leadership (Kim B for example) while somebody else was groomed or, in the case where party communications had broken down altogether, a publisher who might print his revised and edited diaries.

            I have a lot of faith in Gillard (especially in her abilities to negotiate and delegate) and I believe that, with the Greens to prevent her from straying too far into Liberal policy territory, she will become the reformist Australia desperately needs. Because a lot needs reforming in Australia Bob, especially the education system which in many states has been neglected for the better part of 10 years.

            Meanwhile every single article that you write about Gillard, and I do mean every article, seems unfairly rooted in a willfull desire to pull the woman's hair. I do so hope that one day you can learn from Gillard too, Bob, and rise above the beastly old days that men in politics once knew.

              • StaggerLee :

                11 Sep 2010 6:04:42am

                Well Done Indigo Violets - a sensible, robust and courteous response to a question bogged down in its own absurdity - Stott-Despoja, Minchin!

                I ask you..............Ellis actually thought some of the names on this list would help his argument?!?!

                Again, well done.

              • Bob Ellis :

                12 Sep 2010 2:34:04am

                Please list Gillard's achievements as a minister. Her time in high office has been, thus far, as long as Jack Kennedy's. Please say what she has done. Sacking and rehiring Rudd because he could, in a by-election, bring her down is not an achievement, it's a desperate grovelling apologetic retreat.

                You say that this offer is unprecedented, but Howard made it to Downer after he overthrew him, Hawke to Hayden after he overthrew him, Menzies to Casey after he defeated him in a close ballot for leadership, Curtin to Evatt after he defeated him in a close ballot for leadership, Obama to Hillary Clinton after he defeated her in a close ballot for leadership.

                Where do you get your facts from? Have you any intelligence?

                Please reply.

              • Doug Quixote :

                12 Sep 2010 9:15:43pm

                Bob, why don't you? It would a fine exercise in discipline for you to research Gillard's successes and write about them dispassionately. :)

              • StaggerLee :

                13 Sep 2010 5:12:07am

                I'm with Doug here - Bob Ellis, you need to list them...here......often.....forcefully, persuasively....truthfully.
                People need to read of the Rudd/Gillard/Labor achievements here, not in your books......your audience is here, right now. You read the nonsense that passes for Coalition critique on these forums and you let it stand. Worse still, you fuel these dullards with a sentence that they feast on for weeks - now whilst that may seem to you to be an act of.......homage....it is nothing but a bleat that needs constant rebuttal from us so we can try and move to the questions at hand.

                Counter Ellis, counter.
                Parry and thrust and move that melancholic mind into gear.
                Or.....are you gonna let Glenn Milne fill the void?

              • Indigo Violets :

                13 Sep 2010 7:52:27pm

                Yes Doug. He should and I look forward to reading it if he does.

              • What I think of it :

                13 Sep 2010 6:52:29pm

                What a rude response from Bob.

                Where does he get HIS facts from and does HE have any intelligence? (Now let us wonder why the moderator let HIM breach ABC policy guides by abusing the intelligence of another commentator).

              • Indigo Violets :

                13 Sep 2010 6:59:01pm

                Dear Bob.

                Good grief. And a request for a reply as well! I must then.

                It is remarkable that your argument cites Downer, Hayden, Casey, Evatt and Clinton as examples to support your stand against Gillard when they could as readily have been made examples to support Gillard when she replaced Rudd as prime minister.

                Am also astonished by a few inaccuracies in your response so will outline more facts in a separate post, to avoid truncation at the 500 word limit.

              • Indigo Violets :

                13 Sep 2010 7:51:38pm

                Further to my reply to Bob, as requested by him. And to correct inaccuracies in his response.

                Downer was only leader of the Liberals while they were in opposition, for only eight months, and never lead the party into an election. He was never prime minister so can hardly be said to have been "overthrown". He actually supported Howard (with great party loyalty - and no I am not a fan of his nor a Liberal voter) when it became known that Downer as leader would lose an election if the party went to the polls with him at its head.

                Hayden was also never prime minister. He resigned as leader of the opposition to make way for the (then) more popular Hawke, a candidate of the unions, who was considered a better bet to win the 1983 election. He became Minister for Foreign Affairs because he was more or less offered the position in exchange for swapping places with Hawke.

                Casey was never EVER a party leader or prime minister, he was a Federal President of the Liberal party while it was in opposition - and Menzies lead the party during that time. So Bob's information here is incorrect at best (in jaw dropping proportions) and deliberately misleading at worst.

                Evatt was never prime minister either, and remained leader of the opposition for a whole nine years (astounding by today's standards). Just think, nine years before anybody wondered if it might be a good idea to try a new man! Evatt himself offered to resign in 1958. On top of that, he was actually Minister for Foreign Affairs BEFORE he became party leader. So again Bob's info is really, really, wrong.

                Obama and Clinton are Americans, and irrelevant in terms of Australian political history. Hillary was also not rolled by Obama in any sort of coup - they both stood as candidates in a presidential pre-selection "contest" peculiar to regular American political process. Nor is Clinton a Minister of Foreign Affairs. She is the 67th US Secretary of State. Very like the position of Governor General in Australia - but with a slightly different name and role in the US because the American parliamentary system considers itself to be completely independent of Britain and British representatives of the royal majesties. Because US foreign policy is such a monstrously complicated affair it is overseen by the president who is advised by several very important people including the Secretary of State, a National Security Advisor and a United Nations Ambassador.

                If journalists must criticise something then they should criticise Labor (and Liberal) asylum seeker policies. Bear in mind that voices like yours (Bob) make criticising those policies very difficult because your voices have been so critical of so many other items (of needless contention) already.

                Please stop writing churlish articles about the new prime minister and give Gillard's government a fair go.

              • Indigo Violets :

                13 Sep 2010 10:19:33pm

                In summary.

                Gillard's appointment of Rudd as ex-prime minister to the Foreign Affairs portfolio was unprecedented in Australia. So was the way certain sectors of mainstream media treated her as a new party leader and prime minister.

                You say that Howard made the same offer to Downer. But Downer was never prime minister. When Howard replaced Downer as leader of the opposition, the leader change was written in mainstream media to be "bloodless". Downer was even quoted saying he wanted to leave the position of leader. An entirely different situation all round.

                You say that Hawke made the same offer to Hayden. But Hayden was not prime minister, and only leader of the opposition at the time.

                You say that Menzies made the same offer to Casey. But Casey was never even leader of the opposition let alone prime minister.

                You say that Curtin made the same offer to Evatt. But Evatt was never prime minister! And he was Minister for Foreign Affairs before he became leader of the opposition, not after (!).

                You say that Obama made the same offer to Hillary Clinton. But they are not Australians. And they ran as candidates within an entirely different political structure - that doesn't have the position Minister of Foreign Affairs.

                Gillard made a miraculous (unprecedented) effort in unfavourable (unprecedented) circumstances to pull the party together in the face of (unprecedented) evil things written about her by Bob and a few editorialising chums.

                She and her new cabinet deserve a fair go.

              • StaggerLee :

                14 Sep 2010 6:16:26am

                If I wore a hat...I would doff it.......to you Indigo Violets.
                Its been a pleasure to eavesdrop on your conversation with Bob Ellis.

              • Bill :

                14 Sep 2010 11:51:02am

                Indigo, You still haven't listed Gillard's achievements as a Minister or Prime Minister.

              • What I think of it :

                14 Sep 2010 5:11:16pm

                We're all waiting for Bob to do it. Then we will make him write out the list 20 times in pencil on paper to ensure each point takes hold in his head.

              • Bob Ellis :

                06 Oct 2010 5:44:53pm

                Hmm. Howard replaced Downer as party leader 'bloodlessly' did he? Well, even so did Gillard replace Rudd; like Downwer he vacated the position without bringing on a spill. Hayden was five weeks from being Prime Minister, and the offer was the same, Foreign Minister, and he said yes and became Foreign Minister. How is this different? Please explain. Casey like Rudd or Hayden was the party leader's rival, and he too became Foreign Minister. How is this different? They all became Foreign Minister. Evatt sought the party leadership and sought to dsplace Curtin and do a deal with Menzies and vbecame..Foreign Minister. How is this different? (I hesitate to say 'How is this different, you moron?' as this is bad manners). Obama and clinton both sought the Presidency, he deated her and she became...Secretary of State, American for Foreign Minister. How is this different, or 'irrelevant'?

          • Lu Lu :

            15 Sep 2010 11:19:15am

            Bob , I want a leader where it is not about their ego or their achievements . I want a leader who gives people in the team the space to shine .
            Perhaps the most significant things that Gillard said in an interview was " Its not about me ."
            I want a leader who trusts and engages and listens and learns and laughs and is human.

            She has elevated the status of education and given it a focus like never before .
            This is a woman who has devoted her life to Labour Party and the principles it stands for .She has worked consistently to improve conditions for working people through the dimantling of work choices . Don't forget she (with Maxine Mckew) kept Childcare centres open after the ABC debacle ,(that took up a bit of her time ). Under Gillard schools finally had the first decent bit of funding . I am not a fan of My school but what she is trying to achieve is better outcomes in education . She needs evidence to give schools more money . Under Gillard Trade training centres are happening .She instigated changes to youth allowance that encourage young people to study .We also have the first paid maternity scheme for all women .
            She combines a steely strength with intelligence and heart .
            I look for qualities in my leaders , she is not the traditional ego driven bully that usually run political parties .
            I know you find it difficult that an unmarried athiest woman is in charge .
            When Bob Hawke first got in what had he done , he had only been in parliament 5 minutes . However he also had particular qualities of leadership .
            I sincerly believe Gillards best is yet to come .

          • ant :

            15 Sep 2010 3:24:47pm

            Gillard's biggest achievement is to prevent Tony Abbott from being Prime Minister and taking us back to the stone age. Others are getting rid of Tony Howard's Work Choices atrocity and also setting up the My School website to deal with the way we are failing our children in terms of education and denying them a future in the workforce or in tertiary education by underfunding public education which is where most Australian children get their education, as well as beginning to rebuild the infrastructure of our schools which was shamefully ignored for Howard's entire term in office while he spent his time jetting off to sit at George W. Bush's feet in Washington and pretending to be Winston Churchill. Losing sixteen seats is better than losing an election which is what would have happened once the media was finished with demonizing Kevin Rudd. You're just annoyed she didn't lose, Bob, after you predicted again and again that she would. You lost me at Nick Minchin who would have been almost as appalling a Prime Minister as Tony Abbott or Barnaby (million/billion/trillion) Joyce. Gillard also didn't preside over a budget that was $11 billion underfunded.

  • Diana :

    10 Sep 2010 10:35:09am

    I heartily agree with everything you said about journalists in this campaign- they totally trivialised any message to be delivered about policy or important issues. Ansd they did employ bullying practices that stopped messages about policy from being articulated effectively. Kerry O'Brien and Laurie Oakes should attend 'anti-bullying' courses.

      • JohnnyBgood ®:

        10 Sep 2010 1:20:50pm

        Good for you Bob Ellis for writing that article. I agree with you Diana.

      • burke :

        10 Sep 2010 3:06:34pm

        They have to bully, precisely because no answers were forthcoming. The failure to answer straightforward questions is appalling. I wish Richard Carleton was still around.

  • Eric :

    10 Sep 2010 8:15:37am

    Bob ellis sets himself up as a knowledgble predicter of the future ... to the point of arrogance.

    Hes like most clairvoyants, make enough predictions and one will be correct, then promote that one as an example of his accuracy (and keep quiet about the failures).

  • ant :

    10 Sep 2010 6:52:27am

    The best thing you can say about Tony Abbott and the Liberals in this election is that they lost twice. It was certainly no 'famous victory' since they lost it once by not winning 76 seats and again by not being able to negotiate 76 seats. A victory would have been if they'd won 90 seats. While it's true that Labor lost once, they won the negotiations because all of Abbotts' bad policies on broadband and health and education and his deceit on the costings, not to mention his prominent role in the Howard government came back to haunt him.

    The only reason Ellis wrote this article is that he's an old fashioned, seventies style sexist and Gillard is female and he's also annoyed that his predictions of an Abbott win didn't come to pass. He said she was leading labor off a cliff before the election and now that she's still Prime Minister he claims she's leading them off a cliff again. I would hate to be a woman driving a car with him as a passenger. That would be a little foretaste of hell. And Ellis should, God knows, be the last one to talk about manners. Not one word about the media's bias during the campaign. Not one word on the patent bias of the Murdoch press and Murdoch's urgent desire to see Abbott installed as Prime Minister. Not one word. But numerous words on how badly Mark Latham was treated! No mention of the fact that Latham was thrown in the mix by Channel 9 only because they thought the mere sight of him would spook voters and make them vote for Abbott. But, as usual, Latham had to go for in-your-face confrontation and just made himself look like a bully while making Gillard look motherly and kind. The fact is, this was an election where the voters, especially rural voters, won. That doesn't happen very often and should be celebrated.

      • Bob Ellis :

        12 Sep 2010 2:39:56am

        I wrote a whole article on the Murdoch press's bias, and eight books, thus far, that advert to it with ferocity. Please stop telling lies about me.

        Please.

          • Bill :

            14 Sep 2010 11:48:03am

            These lefties lack your objectivity Bob. I am surprised that you could expect anything else.

          • What I think of it :

            14 Sep 2010 5:28:41pm

            Yes well eight books and "a whole article" on the subject are more than sufficient to encourage the commenting class, whose numbers will ensure "the Murdoch press's bias" becomes a haunting refrain (and lasting forum meme).

            I guess this might be what the men call "blowback" ?

            Still doesn't explain why, aware as Bob is of "the Murdoch press's bias", not one word has been written by him about gender bias where media commentary on Gillard is concerned.

  • Icedvolvo :

    10 Sep 2010 5:05:59am

    I thought this was a serious op ed until I read:

    "Kerry O'Brien who with his weekly skewering inquisitions reduced both candidates to gibbering wrecks. "

    Oh Bob you almost had me there......

      • liz :

        10 Sep 2010 10:36:43am

        Yes.

        During the election campaign cocky KO tried to show Abbott up but hardly appeared 'skewering' as he fumbled awkwardly with his notes to find that techno term, 'peak speed'. Instead of being 'inquisitorial' with the PM, he was just belligerent.

        Admit it Ellis, the PM has never been a 'gibbering wreck'. The point really is that the general standard of journalism was/is shoddy, don't worry about the pollies.

          • burke :

            10 Sep 2010 3:09:55pm

            I would have said that the general standard of pollies is shoddy and the journos make brave attempts to raise the standard. How can you accept the massive failure to respond to reasonable questions. It is totally undemocratic.

  • Really :

    10 Sep 2010 3:57:46am

    Bob,
    Always a treat to try to read the puzzle of the misfiring of your synapses – these glimpses of the Mad Hatter’s Tea Party inside your head.

    Some of Bob’s own UIPs are presented here.
    Free trade kills jobs left and right.
    Bob can speak for every single Australian about out commitment to Afghanistan.
    The government balancing its books will cause thousands of suicides. (In addition to the 2,000 per year in Australia now?)
    There is a connection between interest rates and taxation rates.
    Bob, please explain?

    And more –
    Julia is “genderless” but “laughing prettily” nevertheless? Isn’t it rough enough to add a year and a bit to her age?

    The list of trivia that preoccupied the media appalls you, but your own concerns run to her marriage plans (or lack of them, where she lives, some throwaway line about a honeymoon, and her references to Abbott’s swimwear and Pyne’s manner.
    It’s good to see that you, at least, are noble enough to focus on the “things of real concern”.

  • Lizzie,F. :

    10 Sep 2010 2:14:04am

    Spot on Bob,
    The media bayed for blood and delighted in it. The hype that was built around the most trivial and insignificant rubbish was mind boggling and appalling. (There are some exceptions though, for example, Michelle Grattan is reliably worthwhile.) Even though I've been a life time ALP supporter I felt numb on the final announcement by Oakeshott - Labor is in ... so what .... there is little little joy at the prospect of hearing and seeing more of that untrustworthy, self promoting, incompetent career politician and laughing assassin. No doubt Gillard's significant past and more recent stuff ups will now be wallpapered over.
    I am a feminist, born and bred, but Gillard has robbed us all of what should have been a major milestone and cause for celebration - our first female Prime Minister - popularly elected on her merit - sadly this cannot be said of Gillard. Not by any stretch of the imagination. Far from it.

  • crankyofcanberra :

    10 Sep 2010 1:31:51am

    I think labor got what they deserved. After 3 years of imperial rule, they now have the complete opposite. Decision making circumstances in government could not be more different.
    I think Julia will come into her own because I think she is the real deal and she will grow into the job, surprising commentators at how adept she is at governing. She also does have a mandate though not necessarily a mandate to lead the country. Her job is to lead the country but the mandate she has is a mandate to do things differently. A blessing and a burden. Go Julia - I believe in you.
    Regards Cranky
    PS - looking forward to your next book Bob but a bit worried that you are turning up here on the information superhighway.

  • Az :

    10 Sep 2010 1:28:27am

    Bob - you're wrong.

    Julia's played a masterful political hand - driving Labor to the centre right, thereby pushing her foes to the far right.

    Allowing her chosen pals, the far left, carte blanche, thereby neutralising right elements within her own party.

    She's a master of the political game... and you're not.

      • polar dancer :

        10 Sep 2010 8:18:44am

        Which "right elements" has she neutralised exactly?
        So far as my eyes can see and ears can hear, all the right wingers are still there, in full blushing force.
        Had she played a masterful hand, we'd see a bigger party and hear some new policies about the sorts of things you're dreaming. If the ALP has gone to the left a bit it wasn't because it loves that space. It was dragged there kicking and screaming by the Greens and by the near death experience.
        But let us see what she does henceforward.

  • macsporan :

    09 Sep 2010 11:33:18pm

    A delightful piece of insight skewering the truth about this wretched woman with an eloquence that enlightens a darkened, doltish world.

    Never in all my memory has Labor exhibited such decrepitude and folly; it was almost down there with the coalition.

    I would love to hear more about the 11 campaign mistakes.

    It seemed to be one blunder after another: was their anything that was not?

    Next time maybe?

  • Queensland JAK :

    09 Sep 2010 10:22:38pm

    Entertaining and guileless and more than a bit poisonous Bob. So close to true that it seems true. You're a terrific writer alas. Paganini on steroids.

    If the song you sing were the whole human truth it would be even better than it is. It's a good song. You have sussed out the negatives with unerring skill. But you missed the positives. Julia's capacity to keep her eye on the ball and to remember salient facts which matter when they need to be remembered. Her genuine sympathy for people born on the wrong side of the tracks. Her ability to make rough waters calm and to find solutions where others find disagreement.

    Yes we will have to shout at her and demand what we know must be demanded but let us not indulge our sensuous delight in vitriol when the future of our country is what matters.

    I didn't notice a distaste for war when Beazley had power to stop it. You romanticise the past and your old mates, but you are good value and I will always read you because you are alive and passionate and likeable.

  • Peter :

    09 Sep 2010 10:06:36pm

    Human Beings are curious creatures, We have our strengths and we have our weaknesses. Bob Ellis writes beautifully from his usually generous heart. What a shame though he has a deep mistrust and fear of women.

  • Clotho :

    09 Sep 2010 10:05:36pm

    Just as well you're a writer not a journo, eh Bob?

    Otherwise we could ask in whose downfall did you participate in?

      • Lizzie,F. :

        10 Sep 2010 9:14:32am

        Peter, What you assert is nonsense. Should your criticism be read as a deep mistrust of writers ... or perhaps men?
        Gillard happens to be a woman, so do we forgive her everything because of it,gazing on with rose coloured glasses?
        I am a professional woman, greatly interested in politics, but I mistrust this particular politician, woman or not. This is because of all that I know about Gillard, and what I see and hear from her on a daily basis. You might like to look at her REAL track record and her REAL qualities, and not the glossed version promoted by those in her media fan club.

  • Verity :

    09 Sep 2010 9:14:29pm

    Why can't journalists get over the election? You are all sounding like those American counterparts who drone on for weeks at a time about something which should be over in 24 hours? Anybody would think you get paid by the word....or the hour.

    Julia Gillard is Prime Minister, end of story. If she "falls over the cliff" then lets hope you are with her writing the story along with all your collegues.

    Tony Abbott is the Leader of the Opposition, end of story.

    Now lets look to the future and what it brings.

      • Groucho :

        09 Sep 2010 11:14:18pm

        Love your work Verity.

        Even more-so if you are 'the' WA Verity.

  • By Us :

    09 Sep 2010 9:03:18pm

    Abbott got the easiest ride that ANY Opposition Leader has EVER received from the media.

    He was hardly questioned on his "policies". He was allowed to get away with chanting slogans without question. The media ran his talking points day in day out without reasonable skepticisim. He prematurely walked out of press conferences when the questions did get a little tricky ... and the media hardly commented.

    When Abbott used a line often cited by those accused of RAPE, the media hardly commented.

    When Abbott made a "joke" about leaning towards "guided democracy", the media said hardly a word.

    When the Liberals took an ELEVEN BILLION dollar costings blowout to the election, attempting to con their way into office, the media raised barely a whimper.

    And the ABC doesn't escape condemnation here. It has been as bad as any of the media. In fact, the ABC has been WORSE because out of all the media, the ABC is the only outlet REQUIRED to deliver quality, independent, unbiased coverage of politics.

    You failed, ABC, and I doubt it was accidental.

      • Rhonda :

        09 Sep 2010 10:58:43pm

        Oh how I agree. Now Joe Hockey is running with the negative spin, the old fear tactics that are the Coalition's stock-in-trade and once again the media is giving him credence.

        That so many voted for the Coalition can be attributed largely to the relentless hammering the media gave Labor for much of their last term, not as a result of great policies put forward by Tony Abbott.

          • Lucy :

            10 Sep 2010 8:30:48am

            Why isn't the media asking who prepared the Abbott costings that had one saving counted in twice and proceeds from the sale of Medibank plus profits from an unsold Medibank?
            Someone had to have ticked this as OK, even if it was a junior clerk in the Liberal organisation who made the initial mistake. Whose signature was at the bottom? Hockey? Robb? Abbott? One of them lost the Coalition and Abbott the support of the Independents, the Liberals' reputation as financial managers and ultimately the PMship.

            Why aren't reporters asking?

            Another thing. All this brouhaha about faceless men when the names and faces are known.
            Yet the sources for Laurie Oakes "leaks" really are faceless.
            Anonymous malicious letter writers are despicable, yet reporters encourage and protect them. There should be recourse in law for anyone whose career and reputation during an election is damaged by a newspaper report based on an anonymous informant who is not prepared to show their face.

            Locally we had a "political activist" feeding "information" to Andrew Clennell, then of the SMH, now of the Telegraph, which Clennell printed without checking. A local ethnic newspaper picked up the Herald's article and mistranslated it, turning rumour into "fact",
            Upon an investigation of a complaint by the private citizen thus maligned, the SMH had to print an apology. The ethnic paper is being sued. We know who the original informants were, but those spreaders of nastiness are untouchable because newspapers "protect their sources".

            Why, Bob, don't you have a go at Laurie Oakes! Ask who was the source of his leaks? If it was Rudd, or a member of his family, have him say so. If it was not Rudd nor a member of his family, Oakes should say so. If it was a public servant present in the Cabinet meetings, say so. Until Oakes does so we should believe it was a wild guess on his part.

            Since you are a fiction writer, Bob Ellis, I guess we can assume that your opinions and fantasies are your opinions and fantasies

      • sean the sheep :

        10 Sep 2010 12:34:41pm

        except for the easy ride Rudd got when he was opposition leader. The media failed to report his many failings and unsuitability for the job that eventually led to him being sacked in his first term as PM.

          • Rhonda :

            10 Sep 2010 5:47:26pm

            sean

            The media never left Kevin Rudd alone as PM, whether the story was real or manufactured it made no difference, they went with it anyway (Godwin Grech's fake email comes to mind) and as usual, the sheep followed. Baaa..Baaa..

              • Groucho :

                10 Sep 2010 11:21:45pm

                Mark Riley pecked out Rudds eyes repeatedly, and then shed pathetic crocodiles tears when he got piffed. Why oh why,he wailed?

                What an over-inflated, obsequious sycophant, you are Riley.
                ___________________
                The majority of our current Aussie journalists are sluts to the pimps of media moguls, with the exception of a few.

                The rural and foreign affairs journos seem better,especially the ABC lot.

  • Evil Genius :

    09 Sep 2010 8:57:17pm

    Brilliant as ever Bob! :)

  • gerard :

    09 Sep 2010 8:35:07pm

    May I humbly suggest to both Bob Ellis and Glen Milne to heed the latest science and try Vitamin B.
    Please, take this chance to keep the brain cells a bit more active for a while, spare us the repetitious messages that we get fed on a daily basis. It is driving us nuts.

      • joker's spade :

        10 Sep 2010 8:23:02am

        Grard, do as I do: Do not read Glenn, read Bob. That is, choose your reading material and you won't have to go nuts or bolts for that matter.

      • Graeme (the other one) :

        10 Sep 2010 9:46:06am

        You're thinking of Vitamin D Gerard. Double dose tomorrow.

          • Groucho :

            10 Sep 2010 11:24:17pm

            I'd willingly force feed them a 440gm jar of Vegemite each and a 25kg bag of carrots.
            And I can think of several different methods to get them carrots on board!
            ; )

  • rfnk :

    09 Sep 2010 7:27:35pm

    Yep, it's just not about being a Labor, Liberal, Collingwood or St George supporter. Blind support for Labor is the last thing they actually need. They're abyssmal in power - they need time in Opposition to come up with a worthwhile and contemporary platform. Of course the Coalition is probably, no definitely, just as underdone - they need time in Opposition too! Unfortunately, the current circumstance of weak Government might not create enough pressure for the opposition to emerge as a strong alternative Government. NSW all over again? What a depressing prospect!

  • Shear gold :

    09 Sep 2010 7:27:00pm

    oh dear oh my, bob, the beatles were wrong, its not getting better all the time, is it? But tomorrow never knows was always on the money.

  • Evan :

    09 Sep 2010 7:03:51pm

    I wish I could write one tenth as well as you do Bob.

    And I agree with your point about Gillard and her minders trashing policy for hype.

  • Lindsay Cooper :

    09 Sep 2010 6:31:55pm


    Very well said Bob, you are one of the few that sees and says it as it is, tis a pity that some of the learned people don't take notice of you.

    And I can't see that you unthinkingly support any side in that election.

  • Lehan Ramsay :

    09 Sep 2010 6:30:33pm

    Of course, there will be no religious parties.

  • Lehan Ramsay :

    09 Sep 2010 6:26:31pm

    I am so looking forward to the next one, too! Now that we know that any one of us can be the deciding vote, we will have so many more to choose from. The same-sex marriage people, and the athiest people, and the elephant people, and the women's weekly landscape-of-the-week people. All with their funny party names.

      • Lehan Ramsay :

        10 Sep 2010 9:42:59am

        Those landscape-of-the-week people, can't figure out what they're going to be standing for.

          • Momus :

            11 Sep 2010 10:27:08am

            Speaking of Landscapes.
            listen to what cats do to it in our beautiful land.
            (Courtesy of Your ABC Best Of)

            http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/homepage/bst_feralcats_edit.mp3

            I am sure you will do the right thing, Lehan.

  • Ania K. :

    09 Sep 2010 6:14:00pm

    Hi Bob,

    Great article & glad to have you back.

    Cheers,
    AK

  • bored :

    09 Sep 2010 6:01:33pm

    Oh Bob, this is exactly the kind of tired rhetoric that you claim to be opposed to. Please try to find a point and stick to it. If you have nothing new to add to the discourse on the current state of politics, please don't bother even writing. It's nothing we haven't heard before.

  • juicy loosy :

    09 Sep 2010 5:51:59pm

    Oh Bob , why you continue to be so 2009 is beyond me !It is not a problem that Labour lost its majority . We have instead , 5 brave and courageous Men as independants and Greens .The ALP has learnt that it has to have a soul . It can't just depend on the results of focus groups . Bob ,this is a good thing ! The LNP are clinging to old politics of hate and destruction and bitterness and backwards looking . This is a good thing , If they want to be relevant in 3 years time they need to be more honest and loving and caring . I don't know if they know how to , if they continue with their bile they will become irrelevant .

    This is the Dawning of the new Age a new Era of new Politics . Its a time when politicians go beyond petty things like ,who the leader is .Why all the doom why all the gloom ? I don't think the journos have caught up yet .Its all about being in the " Now "," The present " , "The Moment". Its about celebrating the diversity of opinions and ideas . Its about vision ,positivity ,passion .
    Oakeshott embodies this new "vibe" ,the party free politician , the White Knights who use power for good ,for positive change .The Greens will blossom and expand . Organisations like Getup will invigorate politics . Less and Less people will read The Australian . More and more people will use the internet for their information . Shows like QandA will expand . HOwever , the radio shock jocks will still have a disturbing influence on the people of western sydney stuck in traffic for hours everyday .
    Julia is kinda just starting to get it . Rudd has had such a huge belt to his ego , he has experienced a personal transformation . Politicians if they are to survive the new "paradigm " have to understand that it is not about personal ambition , it is about caring (for their electorates), sharing (power), respecting(other views) , having vision and inteligence and being loving (listening to ones heart ) .
    Here is my prediction !
    Julia will remain Prime Minister for the next 3 years , she will go to the next election and win with a majority . Kevin will leave Australian politics but during the next 3 years make a fantastic contribution to the Government .
    Tony Abbott will also remain as leader for the next 3 years . He will retire after the next election .
    The greens will increase their seats and their influence .
    Katter and the Greens will increase their influence and there will be debate about protecting our industry/food/ .
    The LNP will saturate the electorates of WIndsor and Oakeshott to such an extent that they will be lucky to survive .However more country electorates will have independants.

    Broadband and services in rural areas will increase . More people will want to escape the insanity of the suburban fringe and Country towns will start to come to life again .
    Something will be done about Poker machines taking over Australia

      • Lindsay Cooper :

        10 Sep 2010 1:19:15pm


        Ha! And pigs might fly juicy loosy

  • Sandra :

    09 Sep 2010 5:40:30pm

    Wow. Despite the anti-JG spin, I agree that members of the 4th Estate / "our friends from the Press" did indeed seem to like making things come 'true' that didn't previously appear to exist. I also liked the political history here, so deftly woven.

  • Joe Blow :

    09 Sep 2010 5:25:59pm

    Oooh - someone dares to suggest 'the empress has no clothes' and the personal attacks come flowing at a great rate. Is Bob the only Labor voter who hasn't 'flicked their switch to' moving forward, moving forward, Julia is great, Kevin was bad, there is no past, moving forward ......?

      • puss :

        09 Sep 2010 9:51:39pm

        'Moving forward' with Julia, that would be ok if she could move forward,....please.

          • Helvi :

            09 Sep 2010 10:47:01pm

            puss, why don't you move forward, but don't expect Abbott to follow you; he's modelled himself after the fifties man, Howard, and he will not be going anywhere.

              • robbing hoods :

                10 Sep 2010 5:30:32pm

                Helvi,'moving forward' with the current govt. would be good if they knew how! So far we've only gone backwards. It seems it will be more of the same because they dont even understand their own spin! They juust blame the opposition.

                The ALP/greens just want to sit on their hands and let someone else do the work for peanuts. They preach GREED! The same ppl are will make squillions from other ppl if they can!!!So long as they dont have to do the hard yards and take responsibility for anything!

              • puss :

                10 Sep 2010 5:36:11pm

                It gives me confidence knowing he is modelled on John Howard. A young fit man ready to take us into the future with confidence and propriety.

      • Helvi :

        09 Sep 2010 10:48:24pm

        Joe Blow, you are the one who seems to be stuck in the groove!

  • Spinner :

    09 Sep 2010 5:24:29pm

    Silly old Bob. He couldn't get it right most of the time during the election campaign. His predictions were essentially incorrect, and here we go again.

    If you want to read an article which will probably get it all wrong again, read this one by poor silly old Bob.

    Sharing power with the minor party and independents is not so bad Bob. Things could have been much, much, worse. Mr Abbott and his bunch of has-beens could have got in.

  • Graeme (the other one) :

    09 Sep 2010 5:21:05pm

    Gillard is leading Labor over a cliff? Oh no. I can't watch. Umm, which cliff is it? Just so I can avoid it of course. Do you think they will show it on TV?

    Bob Ellis reveals himself as an anti-Ruddite as well as a long-term owner of a Gillard-free Christmas card list. But with a somewhat endearing and wrong-headed passion for Labor, a Labor Party of the past, perhaps as it never was. Everything (everything) looks better from a distance. Stay well clear of the inner workings of any machine, particularly if you're given to the wearing of ties.

    For what its worth Bob I applaud you. Not for any mischievous partisan reason either. Traditional Labor supporters may be upset that the self-appointed party of conscience and soul should have its conscience pricked and its soul poked and prodded. This is as it should be. An unexamined party will lose its way as surely as the holey Kev. Hold your leaders to account. Your allegiance is rightly with the party of your dreams not its revolving heads.

    But by taking on yourself to be the conscience and soul of the party you set yourself up as a lightning rod and perhaps an apostate Bob. Any clayness of feet will be at eye level. But rest assured, we don't do stonings here. Do we?

  • jwh :

    09 Sep 2010 5:19:08pm

    Wow! I'm completely bowled over. Bob Ellis authored this piece. Bob Ellis! This is as hard hitting as journalism gets. And to hear the bone crunching criticism against the folly and frivolity of PM 'Spray Tan' from a tried and tested Labor devotee is truly staggering.

    Bob. Respect.

  • Helvi :

    09 Sep 2010 5:05:38pm

    Bob Ellis and sadly also Kerry O'Brian belong to that old type Aussie male who can't stand the idea of 'mere'female as their country's leader, go and root for Abbott...
    I will not waste my words on Milne!

      • chipinga :

        09 Sep 2010 9:24:26pm

        Please Helvi...get off the female thing...!

          • Helvi :

            09 Sep 2010 10:43:39pm

            I will, but only when the blokes here and everywhere else stop being misogynists.

              • Bob Ellis :

                11 Sep 2010 1:58:42am

                I did not root for Abbott, but for Tanner, Debus, McMullan, McKew, Swan, Shorten, Albanese, Beazley, Combet, Faulkner, Kerr and (in my book) Brown, Oakeshott, Windsor, Plibersek and Roxon, all of them better communicators and policy-builders than Gillard.

                Or perhaps you disagree.

              • The Honorable Member :

                11 Sep 2010 4:24:11am

                Bob, you rooted for Bill Shorten? Whatever for?

              • yen :

                14 Sep 2010 4:29:05pm

                Quote:
                "...
                The Honorable Member :

                11 Sep 2010 4:24:11am

                Bob, you rooted for Bill Shorten? Whatever for?
                ...."

                Watch out.

                You Honorable Private Member.
                Of course, the above mentioned politician will always have to be careful about presenting a long bill. In case he be asked to shorten it.

              • StaggerLee :

                11 Sep 2010 6:15:47am

                There's that embarrassing list again - Debus, Windsor, Plibersek and Roxon - ALL of them "better communicators and policy-builders than Gillard"?

                I find this an assertion that "defies credulity" (with thanks and apologies to O'Brien).

                Absolutely.......utterley......absurd.
                Bob Ellis - provide analogue, precedent, reference, example - whatever you wish - for such a claim. Or do you just wish to provoke?
                Am I wrong?

              • gerard :

                11 Sep 2010 7:45:47am

                So calling someone, a woman, 'a dill.' is a good way of communicating?

              • Helvi :

                11 Sep 2010 8:17:07am

                Bob, I feel that Murdoch press 'killed' Rudd with their relentless negative stories. Now same has been happening with Julia, and you have joined in. Yet you are giving Abbott free range, never mind he has not got any real policies nor costings, nor any good people behind him, Turnbull is hardly a Abbott supporter.
                You list all those brilliant Labor politicians... it's not just about Julia or Tony, it's about which side if better for Australian people.

                I'm enjoying your book, and I know that Abbott launched it...not enough reason though to think that he'd be a suitable boy to be our PM :)

              • Lu Lu :

                15 Sep 2010 11:39:58am

                I agree all of these people are wonderful communicators and policy builders. Gillard will give them the opportunity to shine and the space to grow . I think the one of most important thing a True Leader provides is a capacity to allow others the chance to grow . It is no longer a situation where one person has the monopoly . Remember all these people you list put her there in this position . I think it is a real shame that Mckew lost her seat as I think she would have been a huge talent as a Minister .
                When you look at the wealth of talent in the ALP you have to feel sorry for LNP and bumbling idiots in their front bench .
                All of these wonderful talents that Gillard has as Ministers will grow and improve under a Leader who lets them shine .
                The most important thing for the ALP at the moment is stability and focus , Gillard will give that . The biggest mistake would be for Ministers to destabilise her position . Why would they if she allows them to build policy and communicate .The best thing at the moment is a leader like Gillard who is able to build bridges not sky scrapers .

  • Malcolm :

    09 Sep 2010 4:48:15pm

    Bob is never happy unless the ALP are in opposition - that way his pure vision of Labor policies remain unsullied by the stains of political reality. Personally as a genuine ALP supporter, unlike Bob, I like to see them in power. That way I know the conservatives are being held off.

    Whatever it takes Bob, whatever it takes.

      • DocMercury :

        09 Sep 2010 5:59:39pm

        Which is a bit of a surprise, unless his motives are ulterior, because no one in the ALP has sued him for what he's written, but Tony Abbott has.

          • Malcolm :

            09 Sep 2010 10:11:43pm

            Bob is just an example of the old style Labor person who can't handle being in government - having principles mean more than actually putting them into practice. Years ago in Victoria the ALP was run by George Crawford and Bill Hartley - they were of the same persuasion, absolutely high on principle but low on practical political nous.

            Everytime it looked like the ALP might actually win an election they'd do something so dumb like help organise a strike by the transport unions and piss everyone off and the Liberals would romp back home. It took federal intervention by the national Labor executive to get rid of the two of them and suddenly the ALP began to win elections.

            One need only follow what Bob has written during the recent campaign to see this urge for principled self-immoliation at work. As a Labor supporter Bob would make a good kamekaze pilot.

          • Doug Quixote :

            11 Sep 2010 7:28:24am

            That says more about Abbott than about Ellis, but I am astounded at Ellis' shopping lists of rootees elsewhere in this commentarium. Just what did Julia do to poor Bob?

      • Haha :

        09 Sep 2010 8:41:24pm

        So you do not care whether the ALP break their policies, as long as they keep power?

        Then I thank you, Malcolm, for finally admitting to what Liberal supporters have been saying for some time.

          • Malcolm :

            09 Sep 2010 10:01:31pm

            Never denied it - the last thing this country needs is conservatives with $11,000,000,000 holes in their budget estimates in power. Now that we have had the election and your lot are still in opposition which appears, if Abbott is any guide, to be their natural role then perhaps we can move along now.

          • Dazza :

            10 Sep 2010 2:56:19pm

            Howard broke policies all through his tenure as PM, (GST, WorkChoices, etc) so what's the difference? Abbott would have been the same, another Howard puppet.

      • Lucy :

        09 Sep 2010 9:50:18pm

        Perhaps no one in the ALP is asking Bob to write speeches for them anymore.

        Maybe Julia is a bit smarter than he is.

          • Bob Ellis :

            11 Sep 2010 2:16:30am

            No, I'm still writing speeches for four Labor politicians: a State Minister, a Federal Minister, a State Premier and a union leader; plus, as required, occasional orations (Australia Day, Anzac Day, State Funerals and historic anniversaries) for
            assorted backbenchers, broadcasters and civil rights campaigners.

            Please stop telling lies about me.

            Julia may be smarter than me. She believes, after all, in Free Trade and that, as we all know, is the shape of the future.

            Well, isn't it?

  • Unter Uber :

    09 Sep 2010 4:47:55pm

    Poor old Bob, nothing left to wear but Blimp's thread bare red pullover. The image of a petulant child who would rather smash a toy to bits than share it comes to mind. Take a long holiday Bob and take Glenn Milne with you, goodness knows he could do with a change of perpective.

  • puss :

    09 Sep 2010 4:35:03pm

    In the last three years we have not been able to talk about casualties, they say x amount since 2001 up to 2010. If you look it is x from 2001 up to 2007! 2008 to 2010 X!
    I can still see the pensioner saying he will vote
    ALP in 2007 because they will bring the troops home.
    And ppl wonder why we have NO confidance in the ALP.........saddend.

    Incidently, there was an article on the abc news wedsite election day saying the greens will support the winner. Wonder what the gullible thought of that! Shame.

  • David Griffiths :

    09 Sep 2010 4:29:53pm

    Hooray for the cleverness and wit of Bob Ellis - the cynic of Labor. Ellis preceded Latham in his capacity and willingness to criticise Labor and this needs to be acknowledged. But, then, Bob is like the majority of the journalistic pack - clever phrases and inflated assumptions instead of serious analysis based on evidence. But, then, who needs evidence when the purpose is to undermine Labor and our first female Prime Minister - in the name of objectivity.

  • Noel Miller :

    09 Sep 2010 4:22:33pm

    As much as I admire your work I'm getting tired of all the negative stuff. But then,without that you wouldn't be as interesting or am I wrong?

  • sean o' the boats :

    09 Sep 2010 4:14:36pm

    I suspect when Bob Ellis met Julia at Panthers she didn't genuflect or otherwise supplicate at the self-proclaimed wise old man of politics and poor old Bob got all hot and bothered.
    Explains his choleric, sexist and astonishingly irrelevant outburst.
    Hunter S. he ain't.

      • Tonto :

        09 Sep 2010 5:14:54pm


        Bob, you should have cooled off out at Panthers with a game of Aquagolf and a couple of quick schooners! You might have cleared out your liver !

  • The Seeker :

    09 Sep 2010 4:13:05pm

    Goodness Gracious, Bob, old chap, you sound like the one who has already gone over the cliff. Are you so cranky about the crushing suspense we all had to endure waiting for an election result that you had to find someone on whom to vent your spleen? Why pick on Julia, for crissakes? I would have thought someone like you, who, I used to think, was a bit above your peers in brains and perhaps also intellect, would have been perspicacious enough to have picked the quality of Julia Gillard a long time ago. Had she been given the chance to lead the Party well before this, it is distinctly possible and probable Labor would not have slid so far from voters’ esteem.

    She can hardly be held responsible for the quality of the election campaign dreamt up by the supposed professionals in the field, or for the images of state Labor governments in Queensland and New South Wales, or for the gullibility of fellows like Bob Katter and his constituents or so many other voters in the mining states in the face of the well healed, misleading scare propaganda put out by the mining sector.

    The last thing she needs to do is explain to you or me or anyone else how she sees her private life, or her beliefs, or where she intends to live. At least her intellectual development has progressed beyond a fond and touching belief in the fairy story of a divine interventionist out there somewhere, which is more then we can say about others who would love to be in her shoes. And which is just one of the myriad reasons I am so comfortable trusting into her hands the management of the affairs of my favourite place to live on this sorry old globe.

      • The Seeker :

        10 Sep 2010 12:30:57pm

        Sorry, people, I meant *well-heeled*.

  • jaycee :

    09 Sep 2010 4:11:52pm

    But why is it, Bob, that you seem to think and recall all these things AFTER the event!?

      • barry :

        09 Sep 2010 8:16:17pm

        I look forward jaycee, to reading your discussion and analysis of the NEXT election campaign. No need to wait until AFTER the event. Do it now.

          • jaycee :

            09 Sep 2010 10:37:58pm

            Dumbo..all or at least most of the events that Bob goes on about were happening as the election unfolded..there were heaps of people complaining of the media coverage etc. there were tons of posts HERE pleading the very things Bob now claims as suddenly enlightening....so where were all the voices as the event unfolded and the Liberals lied their way into the last days and so nearly into office?

      • Lizzie,F. :

        10 Sep 2010 2:26:57am

        In fact if you bothered to check you would find that a number of Bob's articles, run before the election, pointed out the dangers faced by Labor, and the likely perilous or failed outcome -- as has come to pass.
        His ideas are remarkably astute,frank and prescient.

  • Dugong :

    09 Sep 2010 3:42:46pm

    So tell us, Bob, who did you vote for?

      • Bob Ellis :

        09 Sep 2010 4:43:57pm

        Labor in the lower house, Kernot, Faulkner, some Greens and, at 67 the vile Matt Thistlethwaite, betrayer of Wedderburn, at 67, before the shooters, the nutters and Fred Nile.

          • Dee Nile :

            09 Sep 2010 7:29:25pm

            Bob,
            Thanks for not referring to Fred as a "nutter".

      • jaycee :

        09 Sep 2010 8:42:07pm

        Don't you know..: He's the permanent member for Beenleigh!

  • blueson ®:

    09 Sep 2010 3:36:04pm

    the lemming scenario came to mind to me as well but we are told that the act of committing suicide by lemmings is not true, though for politicians it is an inevitability? the big lemmings or lemons here have to be the independants for you cannot be your own person when you are always looking over your shoulder at what is coming from behind. Oakeshott beheld to a script that was at best Schmaltz, it was a plea for clemency from his electorate for having taken the bribe or even considering the suggestion of a bribe. Lemmings or lemons it is always a sour end.

  • roo in the suburbs ®:

    09 Sep 2010 3:30:32pm

    A witty and entertaining read Bob, even if I didn't agree with all your writings, the way that it was said more than made up for it. Thank you.

    As far as the 'cliff' analogy, well electorially Labor went over that cliff many weeks before the election. The fact that many Australian people have put out their hands to break Labors fall is probably the most interest thing to come out of the election.

    As for the nation; well we enjoy one of the best economies in the World. We have been blessed by our natural resources, hard working peoples and our short term future looks bright.

    When John Howard took over as PM from Paul Keatings Labor, he made the comment that he was a lucky man to receive such a well balanced economy. I wonder if Tony Abbott would have been man enough to make the same comment?

    roo

      • Steve Atkins :

        09 Sep 2010 7:06:35pm

        " When John Howard took over as PM from Paul Keatings Labor, he made the comment that he was a lucky man to receive such a well balanced economy. I wonder if Tony Abbott would have been man enough to make the same comment?


        Well he wouldn't have said that for the simple reason he wouldn't have got one . Keating's reforms were in the main supported by the Coalition (hear the cicadas -a chirrup when we discuss similar nation building voting from the ALP when they were in Opposition).

        Are you seriously suggesting that a Gillard Govt will in some way mirror the (Coalition supported)reforms of the Keating era ? You must be joking. She will be way too busy keeping all the loonies on her side on her side by spending money she can't afford to spend.

          • roo in the suburbs ®:

            09 Sep 2010 10:07:42pm

            Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote:

            "I wonder if Tony Abbott would have been man enough"

            i.e. "would" as in last election...

            Past Tense.

            I too make the mistake of reading too quickly without fully understand the context at times.

            If you disagree, please comment.

            roo

      • Jono :

        09 Sep 2010 8:55:34pm

        Well Kevin definitely wasn't.

  • Sublight :

    09 Sep 2010 3:25:53pm

    The misogyny in this piece against Gillard is palpable. Genderless, god hater, not forthcoming to other men about her marriage plans (gasp!) nor her domestic arrangements (gasp!), 50 years old and claiming to be still learning. It all points to the frigid, feeble minded spinster concept that died out (or should have) decades ago. If Gillard is so 2007, what year are you, Ellis?

    Such brainless, narrow minded bile speaks of a position of arrogance and inflexibility, and the rest of the article does little to redeem on that front. Ellis, I don't know about your other work but here you've clearly lost the plot.

      • Diana Simmonds :

        09 Sep 2010 4:36:53pm

        About 1972 I'd guess.

      • Bob Ellis :

        09 Sep 2010 4:52:54pm

        Please heed the fact that Gillard is more than a gender, she's a political track record as well. I've pointed out in my previous published writings that Cheryl Kernot, Clare Martin, Verity Firth, Maxine McKew, Jane Lomax-Smith, Natasha Stott-Despoja, Geraldine Doogue and Glenda Jackson would be good Prime Ministers and Segolene Royal a good President of France, as is Angela Merkel of Germany. How does this make me a misogynist? Please explain.

        And please reply.

          • James L :

            09 Sep 2010 5:19:34pm

            Bob, we are talking now and actual, not maybe in other times and places. Not necessarily misogynist but just unhelpful smarter than thou

          • sublight :

            10 Sep 2010 1:08:09am

            Bob, first, Gillard is not "a gender"; nor is she just a political track record: she's also a person. That's a banal utterance, right, but it also seems in danger of being lost amongst the abstractions. Some things are worth saying even if they don't sound clever.

            I didn't call you a misogynist. I can make a misogynistic comment and I'm sure I have, but that doesn't necessarily make me as a person a “misogynist”, ie, someone with a long and venerable history of misogyny. Well, you could argue it is implied - and I'd argue you are being unnecessarily linguistically pedantic and missing my point anyway, which was about what you wrote here and not about your history or you - and at that stage we could just pull stumps.

            I am more than happy to agree with your defence that you don't have a career of being a misogynist. And, such a thing was not my intended inference in the first place.

            As for this piece, I'm happy to retract my use of the "m" word. Rather than the parry and thrust of defending your honour against a wayward adjective, I'd have been interested in some specific feedback on some of these points - "powerless, genderless prime minister". If not a less-than-subtle subtle reference to gender, or lack of (the oldest mysogy.. er, chauvinistic trick in the book, to imply women, especially older ones, are "sexless")then what is the implication of this? Honestly, all ears and hopeful there is a non gender-bias explanation.

            The periphery question for me is what happens when someone internalise and then propagates a sexist political culture. Does that somehow excuse that someone from the charge of sexism? I don't know.

              • Stuffed Olive :

                10 Sep 2010 10:28:10am

                I'm with you on this one sublight.

              • Indigo Violets :

                10 Sep 2010 11:24:30pm

                Yes I am waiting for an explanation about sexlessness as defined by Bob too, Stuffed Olive.

              • Bob Ellis :

                11 Sep 2010 2:22:55am

                If I was an 'internalised misogynist' I would be famed by now for writing bad female dialogue in my miniseries, plays and screenplays. The opposite is so.

                Or perhaps you disagree.

      • Springtime_2010 :

        09 Sep 2010 5:38:52pm

        "The misogyny in this piece against Gillard is palpable". No, it's not it the fact - you have the 1st Installed Female PM in Australia's history. Like Bob said you need to read the fact.
        As well I do not think & I'm sure Bob is not a brainless or narrow minded.....!
        Please reply to Bob. And if not so do not post your comment in such a way.
        Thanks

          • sublight :

            10 Sep 2010 1:24:59am

            I don't think Bob is brainless or narrow minded either. Rightly or wrongly, and I'm well prepared to concede rather strongly! - I was referring to a character of the writing. If I wanted make a personal statement on Bob, I would have said something like "Bob is.... for writing this". I didn't, and the inference was not meant to be there either.

            Good on you for stickin' up for Bob Ellis. I think though, he is a big boy - this is "unleashed", after all.

  • Michael :

    09 Sep 2010 3:25:43pm

    Good point early on but became as hilariously self-important as the protagonist's description of his own reflection in Sartre's 'Nausea'.

  • simon shake :

    09 Sep 2010 3:24:27pm

    Totally agree with you Bob in this article.

  • peterjim :

    09 Sep 2010 3:22:01pm

    Summed up the press well, Bob. All their vacuity, exaggeration, sensationalism, and power through trivia beautifully elucidated.Of course including yourself.

  • Stuffed Olive :

    09 Sep 2010 3:20:55pm

    I gather you are not particularly fond of Julia Gillard.

      • Indigo Violets :

        10 Sep 2010 11:28:43pm

        Which is very strange because he wrote so often and with so much "passion" for Obama. Even though Obama still has not ended any wars nor closed even one detention camp.

  • James L :

    09 Sep 2010 3:04:58pm

    Bob, you make a few points that are valid but beyond that its a rather tired slack "knowing". IE, I was once there in heroic times etc, etc. A little like pissing in the corner to let someone know you were there.

    What the country, its political class and media need now is something constructive. How to make things work with the clay, ( to mix m's ) that we have. It's so easy to apply a negative spin, no personal cost, possibly right and if wrong noone will remember.

    What would be interesting from you and others commentating is less antique smart arse and more constructive............ something, please.

      • Bob Ellis :

        11 Sep 2010 2:29:38am

        Please read my book The Capitalism Delusion and its, oh, five hundred ideas on how to improve Australian society and reorder the world economy.

        Not being there in heroic times or not writing about it if I were is an odd thing to recommend.

        Please say how you would justify this policy, of hiding from the world.

  • Ed of Ryde :

    09 Sep 2010 3:02:23pm

    Apart from overstating Red Kezza's powers, this is a cracking read Mr Ellis.

    By the way, why don't the pollies channel Thatcher (in Thatcher vs Negus) on Red Kezza some time?

  • scott :

    09 Sep 2010 3:01:12pm

    Look Bob, I would have expected you, of all people, to pick up on the fact that one side was using the word 'assassination' at a time when Australians are being killed and killing in battle - surely the most grotesque possible misuse of a metaphor.

  • Tim :

    09 Sep 2010 3:00:58pm

    I'm not sure that I agree with your 'theological correctness' paragraph, Bob.

    Atheists do not, by definition, hate religion. They simply don't believe in it. I'm an atheist and I respect Mary McKillop. I also find Richard Dawkins annoying. The argument about free trade is much more nuanced than saying it merely kills jobs, it also creates them. I know many Australian soldiers who support the war in Afghanistan and I, as a civilian, also support it. We invaded the country and stuffed it up, we should stay to help fix up the mess.

    I take your point that some things need more debate. However, the fact that such complicated issues aren't debated in public probably says more about the nature of the tweet-sized media cycle and our society's similarly sized attention span than the 'theological correctness' of our politicians.

  • marianneb :

    09 Sep 2010 2:48:01pm

    Have to agree with Terence Galvin - you get the government you deserve. Unfortunately it is very easy for many voters to 'suck up' the quick hits from the media and vote accordingly. There is plenty of information available to make an informed decision if you are prepared to look for it. I believe we should not have compulsory voting - it's clear (many of my general acquaintance)that there are a lot of people who have no idea who they should vote for and would rather not vote. They're not interested in seeking out information towards an informed choice. These are the people who are fair game for the biased/incompetent/unprincipled sections of the media. I also agree with Caro - Julia being a woman seems to make her even more of a target for superfluous/purile comment - one (female!) journalist took great pains to describe to us in an editorial the unusual size of her earlobes. We need more positive, honest, constructive and informative journalism - something a bit grown up that doesn't insult our (collective) intelligence. Good luck Julia you are going to need it. However, if anyone can pull a rabbit out of the hat given the degree of difficulty our government now faces, it will be a woman!

      • JM :

        10 Sep 2010 1:47:35pm

        "However, if anyone can pull a rabbit out of the hat given the degree of difficulty our government now faces, it will be a woman!"

        We were very very lucky that the Rabbott was put back in the hat. We were saved from utter disaster by the sheer grit of Gillard, facing up firstly to her brilliant but quirky leader, secondly navigating the treacherous waters of a loathsome media campaign orchestrated by the loathsome Murdoch: a campaign enthusiastically embraced by Fairfax and even by elements of the ABC, thirdly negotiating the competing demands of the indies and the Greens with such grace and fourthly seeing off the most disastrously divisive and dangerous opponent any Labor leader has faced in recent history.

        Bob, you underestimate Gillard at your peril. Contemplate what would have been the sheer awfulness of politics under an unleashed Abbott, worse even than the Howard years, and be thankful.

  • Cambrian :

    09 Sep 2010 2:41:38pm

    Thasnk you Bob for summing it up so succinctly. Truly excellent. There really is nothing of any substance in Gillard and her crowd of jobsowrths. Muppets the lot of them. What a shower. Do keep up the good work. It makes suh a change from reading the drivel usually served up by your colleagues of the forth estate, sadly many of them are contributors to this site. So much for the lucky country. Its opportunity and promise and bounty are being squandered so easily.

  • Joan :

    09 Sep 2010 2:38:26pm

    Bob... You described the 2010 election circus perfectly... interval now 28th Sept take your place ringside for action in parliament.

  • terben :

    09 Sep 2010 2:24:36pm

    I have just read this and was hoping that you would eventually get to the point. But you never did.

    You use the word 'assassin', but I have yet to discover who it was that died. Or is the word meant to cover the fact that someone lost his job because he had lost the confidence of his colleagues? Hardly assassination. Just 'hype'.
    Your comparisons with actual assassins is jounalistic nonsense. I really expect better of you.

  • Drunken Sailor :

    09 Sep 2010 2:20:34pm

    The path Julia has set for herself is almost certianly un-navigable. If she can pull this off it will be a leadership masterstroke, but considering the immensity of the task this is most unlikely.

    And spare a thought for the ALP backbenchers. They have just witnessed many of their neighbours in the lower house lose their jobs and now are justifiably fearful for their own. Their new role is to sit silently up the back with no hope of an audience with Julia because she's too busy meeting with her new best friends from the cross benches. They were sidelined last time around while the high profile recruits like Garrett and Maxine slip into ministeries only to fall short on delivery, and will have to watch the beaming face of Shorten as he collects his reward for delivering the top job to Julia. They have done their time wearing out joggers letterboxing, and have licked so many envelopes for the party that they can immediately and faithfully recall the taste of arabic gum.

    This was to have been their time, but they are now of very little relevance. Its probably the disgruntled ALP backbencher more than anyone else who will be this government's downfall.

  • Michael :

    09 Sep 2010 2:19:41pm

    Ellis is either a master of irony or has entirely missed the point. I would suggest that he reads the first few paragraphs of his over indulgent rant-fest, and thinks long and hard about what a journalists responsiblity REALLY is.
    Do not believe the hype.

  • Hamish Soy :

    09 Sep 2010 2:17:26pm

    Your moping eloquence is a always a treat, Bob, but a tad depressing, non ? How should we as citizens contribute to breaking down the nexus between the media, public institutions, corporations, special interest groups, and politicians that make our political process such an unedifying spectacle ?

  • Elise :

    09 Sep 2010 2:10:37pm

    Excellent commentary, Bob Ellis!

    Totally agree with your Unexamined Idiotic Premise (UIP), and especially this bit: "Prime Minister...who is promising to 'open the curtains and let in the sunlight' after a lifetime of secrecy, flannel and backroom intrigue. So secretive that she wouldn't tell Rudd his fate, or the nation who her Finance, Defence or Foreign Ministers would be (why not?)..., or how she differed in significant policy from the man who had lost his way and why, if he had lost his way, she wanted the wandering drongo back, and why Cabinet discussions would 'go with me to my grave', she is now on a promise to let the sunlight in and be frank and open about everything."

    Total hypocrisy. The cognitive dissonance between the words and actions on "openness" is massive.

    Check her out on climate change as well - contrary advice to Kevin, then enthusiastic words to the public, then no policy backup and lots of delaying tactics... More total hypocrisy.

    Gillard is one of those dreaded individuals who will regularly bare-faced say whatever it takes, while doing something completely different (and much less charming) behind the scenes. Sooner or later most people see through the charade, but often after being taken in for quite a while.

    By contrast, Abbott struggled with his "truth parrot" probably because he is more direct and less fundamentally dishonest. Unfortunately, his core beliefs belong to the century before last, along with Howard's, which may be why he struggled to keep them under wraps?

    Gillard will always have Abbott's measure, because she has no "truth parrot", and he only understands aggression which always looks bad against a charming liar. The LNP needs to think again.

      • Lizzie,F. :

        10 Sep 2010 2:42:41am

        You're right in your summing up of Gillard - the hollowness is breathtaking.
        Had the LNP had a plausible alternative e.g. Turnbull, at the helm they would have romped it in.

  • GraemeF :

    09 Sep 2010 2:06:11pm

    The media are already at it again, blowing up any differences within the new government coalition as a potential split.
    Hold off guys and girls, give them time to iron out their differences like mature adults before you exitably prophesise doom and destruction. Just count to ten occasionally and report what has happened without hyperbole or supposition.
    Give us all a fair shake of the sauce bottle instead of spreading gossip about saveloys, and who is sucking, that have no basis in fact.

  • spud :

    09 Sep 2010 1:54:06pm

    Gillard leading Labor off a cliff, and you are blaming the media? You have got to be kidding! What about her leading Australia off a cliff? After all, her sell out to the Greens and to the regional hicks who somehow live in a fairy-tale world where a multi-billion white elephant called NBN will somehow transport us into the future is the equivalent of climbing into the driver's seat, aiming at the cliff and flooring it. Let's just for one minute analyse what will happen here. The industries that are now on the giving end (ie in the cross hairs of being forced to make sacrifices to feed this insatiably greedy Green-Gillardian monster) are mining, agriculture, export oriented industries and innovation/R&D. These are the green leaves that feed the tree of economic growth, and without them, the tree will ossify into a vast useless slow-rotting mass of dead wood; the public sector bureaucrats and those who rely on this Gillardian monster to feed them, while they spend their time watching movies via their new super fast NBN, instead of learning how to go out and feed themselves.

  • Big Ben :

    09 Sep 2010 1:49:10pm

    Good to have you back Bob.
    We have to stop focusing on the words of partisan hacks. I believe that most Australians recognise bull when they see it and so there is room for a boycott.
    I have decided after much deliberation to stop reading their tripe in the hope that they will be made redundant for lack of interest in their dreadful offerings.
    What we need is truth in news like:
    The Bureau of Statistics figures show 53,100 full-time jobs were created in August, with part-time employment easing by 22,100, leaving a net gain of 30,900 positions (seasonally adjusted).
    A wonderful endorsement of Labor's efforts.
    Now watch your right leaning respondents and their right leaning correspondents find, by their addictive use of smoke and mirrors, to give credit to their bygone silver spooners for this exceptional news. At the same time watch the chardonay left claim by some remote nonsense that socialism works.
    I like the centre where your view is generally uninhibited by rust and the good journalist operates.

  • Malcolm :

    09 Sep 2010 1:48:47pm

    Upon reflection I rather think Bob is far happier when Labor are in opposition - that way they remain unsullied by the demeaning politics of day-to-day government thus leaving his ideals unblemished.

    Personally I am much happier when the ALP is in government because I like to see the Liberals going through their daily teeth grinding exercises. Back in 1967 the Liberals and their hangers on, the Country Party, tried to conscript me and send me to the Vietnam War where I could have got killed - I will never forgive them for that blatant attempt to kill me.

  • Rob :

    09 Sep 2010 1:47:32pm

    Whilst I agree with Bob Ellis that the media had too much to to say, particulary News Ltd and most of it was a beat up of trivia designed to favour the coalition I think the result was a good one.

    A fact that Abbot and his fellow conservatives refuse to acknowledge is that 60% of voter did NOT want a coalition Government-look at the figures on the AEC web site. As Nick Minchin said -the result is the conservatives worst nightmare - a Government and parliament which is further away from the extreme right.

    Where I disagree with Ellis is that Julia now has an opportunity to move Australia forward to a new democracy. It is in the intertests of Labor- the Greens and the Independents to make this work.

    Of course there will be debate, negotiation and some delay in effecting legislation-but is that not what democracy is supposed to be about?
    We may even get a better, fairer and more efficient country out of it.
    It could even be that after years of neglect, including 12 years of coalition Government, the regions will get the infrastructure, the development and job opportunities they need. That could mean pressure taken off the infrastructure of cities.
    Labor,the Greens and the independents could and should do the country proud.
    One hopes against hope that the opposition does not continue to spit the dummy.

  • Lynchpin :

    09 Sep 2010 1:42:08pm

    Sadly Bob, you are part of the problem. Get over it. This is politics. Politics is also at the mercy of "journalists". Egos looking for a headline. At least, Bob, Gillard is having a go. "Genderless"? Really?

    Yes lets see how she goes. It will be difficult, if the performance of the media over the last 3 years is anything to go by.

    There are some powerful forces here at play, Bob. You should know that. Forces that hate the agenda of the Greens, ALP, Windsor and Oakshott. Why did we lose, they cry!

    Call me a lemming if you like, but the alternative of the Opus Dei, Jesuit trained holier than though Pell-ite is much more scary. Jumping off the cliff at that arrival would have been a noble blessing.

  • Barry :

    09 Sep 2010 1:41:30pm

    I really don't think Gillard is leading anything, especially not the Labor party.

    Deputy leader Bob Brown appears to have more control at the moment.

  • Schnappi :

    09 Sep 2010 1:33:24pm

    Think you summed up the media very well ,I read all media everyday and not once did I see that one of abbotts policies was to sell Medibank Private,in fact policies from either side were given a miss by the most vindicitive media I have read for over 50 years.Little wonder none of my family purchase any media of any kind.

      • Jason :

        09 Sep 2010 3:46:54pm

        You mustn't have read the newspapers I did, because there was indeed abundant discussion of this issue. It even featured several times on the 7:30 Report, The Drum, and Lateline. It is up to each individual to inform themselves from a range of sources. Don't blame the media for your own ignorance.

          • jaycee :

            09 Sep 2010 4:13:09pm

            Quite right, Jason...they're not there to inform us!...the nerve!

  • Peter :

    09 Sep 2010 1:29:33pm

    The only thing worse than the combatants was the journos some of whom don't have a brain in their head.Kerry Obrien asking Tony Abbott, How much cable he would need and how many additional poles he would need to role out his internet program was insane nonsense.

      • golfman :

        09 Sep 2010 2:44:20pm

        Also liked how Kerry had to read the definition of peak rate, word for word from a print out, really, really slowly and then follows it with a declaration like "everyone knows what that is".

      • Lucy :

        10 Sep 2010 8:51:57am

        Well. How do you send wireless signals throughout Australia without transmission poles? And who wants transmission poles in their back yards?

        Tony Abbott's coy, "Look. I'm no tech head," little boy embarrassed admission of ignorance was just a way of dodging investigation of the ramifications of his on-the-run policy.

        His advisers (focus groups?) had probably told him that not having a counter policy to the NBN was going to cost him votes (eventually it cost him his famous victory) so the Big Air group lobbyists came up with an alternative - cheaper but not really workable - and Abbott was told to dissemble.

        Kerry O'Brien was tipped off that here was a fertile field of questioning but hadn't quite got the significance and didn't push through.

          • Country Boy :

            14 Sep 2010 7:52:56pm

            Lucy,
            Look love, you obviously reside in a capital city, because your knowledge of satellite broadband to the regional areas is quite obviously non-existant.

            As an apparent expert in rolling out a fibre optic network to 90+% of Australia, how do you intend to cost effectively deliver the cable to my house, my neighbour who is 1 1/2 km's down the road, and the other 250 houses with similar constraints?

            We are all on satellite broadband run off a central tower about 30km's away as the crow flies, and it works great. And you know what? The satellite technology will only get better and we're not limited to cable slowdowns when sourcing beyond Australia.

            I have read many of your posts Lucy, and you are so far left that I fear you must walk in circles. Sit down, clear your head and make yourself aware that opportunities exist beyond the expensive domains from which your beloved Labor party proclaims.

  • John :

    09 Sep 2010 1:29:11pm

    Thank you Mr Ellis, very enlightening comment, with Ms Gillard now reappointed we can only watch the implosion taking place and wait for the next election when we might get to elect a prime minister again.

      • jenbrad :

        09 Sep 2010 3:29:43pm

        Well, unless you're lucky enough to be in the electorate of someone who is, and remains, leader of relevant party, you won't, even then, any more than most of the rest of us.

      • mark :

        09 Sep 2010 3:30:06pm

        If you think there won't be seismic rumblings over the next few years within our dysfunctional opposition you're as one-eyed as the Murdoch Press

      • Big Ben :

        09 Sep 2010 5:50:57pm

        The only implosion I am currently witnessing is Julie Bishop wanting to tear the eyes out of that old - what's his name. The one that is absolutely shocking on TV. Bugger my memory! - you know?.... he is ancient...andrew somebody? Been around for a hundred years at least. I think he is touted as the next shadow treasurer, ostensibly, because at least he is good with numbers.

  • GrumpyOldMan :

    09 Sep 2010 1:27:32pm

    Bob, did you just forget to mention the benefits that the NBN will drive, and the need to reform the health and education systems, and the need to get some sort of price on carbon pollution? Or are those things beyond the comprehension of journalists such as you, as they are beyond the comprehension of conservative politicians like Tony R Abbott?

    Can we please have a stop to this divisive and self-serving journalistic crap. Concentrate you tiny mind on the things that really matter for the future of this country!

      • PHJ :

        09 Sep 2010 4:29:40pm

        looking forward to hearing from you in about six months Grumpy Old Man when the NBN "rollout" is deferred because there is a realisation that a feasability would be a good idea before spending $42bn.. and even worse when we are starting in Woopsville to appease the independents!

          • GrumpyOldMan :

            09 Sep 2010 9:52:23pm

            PHJ - you are obviously a man without vision. Let me guess, you are an accountant or a lawyer, and an Abbott supporter.

            How do you think you could possibly do a feasibility study (or a cost benefit analysis) on a project that has the potential to revolutionise health, education, commerce and communities over the next 50 years? Many of the potential benefits of spending $42bn on the NBN cannot even be imagined, let alone quantified, in 2010.

            It is up to those of us with vision, skill and knowledge to identify those opportunities and make sure they are seized for the benefit of all Australians, and to tell the nay-sayers like you and Tony R Abbott to 6u99er 0ff.

            The time for dreary old accountants and negative, combative politicians and lazy journalists has well and truly passed. Let's make the future happen, not ensure the past continues for ever.

          • betterreadthandead :

            10 Sep 2010 11:07:33am

            NBN rollout has already started.

  • IguanaDon ®:

    09 Sep 2010 1:25:34pm

    Unfortunately, I must agree with many of the things you said there, Bob. However, with all those faults of Julia Gillard, the current state of the Labor Party, and their botched campaign, I, and I'm sure many disenchanted others, are relieved that Tony Abbott and the 'free-market don't-tax-me' conservatives are not yet in power.

    I think that even Oakshott and Windsor, both answerable to conservative rural electorates, baulked at the thought of paving the way for Tony Abbott becoming Australia's Prime Minister.

    You've validly pointed out the flaws of one Party, and this campaign has been incredibly painful to watch from the side. Let me make a comment on the alternative - the alternative to Labor, the Liberals (+Nats), are old, cynical, greedy, and out-of-touch conservatives who could, with luck, do some real damage (see: John Howard) to Australia and the way we're viewed by others.

      • Garry :

        09 Sep 2010 2:01:00pm

        I used to be in Windsor's electorate. I was there when the Nats got ousted. The "conservative electorates" is another of those terms the media is using as if it is true.

        New England is a non-Nationals electorate. It has been for repeated electorates. Dear old Sinclair was an old-style pollie with a good personal vote, but after he left, his Nat successor lasted one term. Then he was voted out.

        And remember the elctorate also includes Armidale, a University city which cannot be said to be rural in the way other towns and cities in country NSW are. In fact New England is a complex electorate. Fobbing it off as conservative is wrong.

        But a question. If Windsor retires at the next electorate, and, say Richard Torbay seeks to replace him as an Independent member, how much chance do the Nats have then? I wouldn't definitely pick a National win.

          • Simon :

            09 Sep 2010 7:28:11pm

            The senate first preferences for different polling places in New England suggest just how complicated the electorate is. In Armidale, for example, 52% of first preference votes for the Senate went to parties with more aligned to Labor than the Coalition (including Labor, Greens, Sex Party etc) than the 46% which went to the Lib/Nat Coalition (+ One Nation, Shooters, Family First etc.) The remaining 1% gave a first preference to Independents or obscure parties with little alliance to either side of politics.

              • IguanaDon :

                10 Sep 2010 12:53:52pm

                Thanks for pointing that out, Garry and Simon. In relation to Windsor's electorate I have indeed been fooled by the media, it appears much more complex than at first glance!

      • chipinga :

        09 Sep 2010 2:03:23pm

        Oakshott and Windsor were looking out for their own hides...thats plainly obvious..!

      • golfman :

        09 Sep 2010 3:04:48pm

        Sorry, I can't let these slide through to the keeper so I'll knock them for 6:

        You said Libs are:

        "old" - but they have the youngest member of parliament in "play that funky music" Wyatt Roy

        "cynical" - oh the cynicism... how dare they demand the government stops blowing our billions and rack up debt for our grand kids. That's right we're not allowed to complain about debt until it hits 50% of GDP. Of course by then you're on a one way slide to 70% because of the interest bill. Julia kept quoting a figure of 6% of GDP but it's actually 17.6% and rising by $100m/day

        "greedy" - Tony Abbott was a volunteer in surf life saving, he is still a volunteer bush fire brigade member. You might find studies that reveal it's not greedy who give their time up for free to help the community.

        "out-of-touch conservatives" - they have the first indigenous member in the lower house.

        You try to stereotype lib/nats like you're living back in the 1970s. Cmon, move forward man.

          • Big Ben :

            09 Sep 2010 4:48:18pm

            golfman - I agree with you. One of those four is plainly wrong.

          • IguanaDon :

            10 Sep 2010 11:54:31am

            Fro argument's sake, I agree not to stereotype if you agree not to base your rebuttals on what is mostly anecdotal evidence.

            For example, 3 of your 4: an indigenous member, a young member in parliament, Tony Abbott's volunteering (the 'greedy' description is more a reflection of some of policies rather than a reflection of one individual). As for 'cynical', I for one don't have a problem with government debt (generally) - governments, individuals and companies all borrow, and for governments to provide necessary services, it may be necessary to borrow.

            I'll concede that my generalisations may not be perfect (how can any stereotype be?), but I could also find anecdotal evidence to support any of the points raised.

  • Disillusioned :

    09 Sep 2010 1:25:24pm

    geez Bob, it must be tough living with such deep seated hatred which you express every time you write or does it help with the SOL?

    Maybe she didn't want to say who were going to be the particular ministers until she knew who was going to be there if they won at all?

    Why does whether she is going to marry Tim and when she might move into the Lodge matter during an election campaign?

    The labour party should have lost government - it may have forced them to go back to their roots and come up with something positive for their supporters to vote for.

    I doubt the Government will last long - the entire media appears to be very upset about this outcome and are trying their collective best to make sure it doesn't work. The positive coverage Abbott and Co get on the ABC alone continues at its high level as it did during the campaign.

  • Billy the Mountain :

    09 Sep 2010 1:24:22pm

    I suppose it wouldn't matter to you that the notion of lemmings jumping off cliffs is a myth.

    The only thing worse than the last election campaign is the reporting of it. No wait, the continued commentary is worse. FFS give it a rest.

      • Doug Quixote :

        10 Sep 2010 2:39:00pm

        Totally agree Billy.

  • Talking about journalists :

    09 Sep 2010 1:22:37pm

    "This was an election principally driven not by politicians, minders or party tacticians but working journalists...."

    Gee.

    That's very, very different from the line you were peddling on 10 August, at which time you were predicting a handsome Gillard victory.

    http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2977865.htm

    And why was she going to win?...Her special character and leadership skills, of course.

    "There were a number of battlefronts she quietly - and sometimes accidentally - did well on, and they are worth enumerating."

    You then spent several hundred words attacking "Menzies' (sic) grey nomads, dementia sufferers and last-ditch hospice loyalists..."

    And nary a "special character and leadership skill" of Gillard's to be seen.

    Still. It was a tall order, hey?

    You and your ilk, Bob. are in for a hard, long, haul over the coming months trying to turn this particular sow's ear of a government into a silk purse, Bob.







      • Jason :

        09 Sep 2010 3:53:49pm

        Hear, hear! How soon some people forget that journos like Ellis - invariably wrong in regard to every prediction they make - do not deserve credibility. If they want to gaze into their crystal balls and tell us what to think, it seems entirely sensible to me to accept their speculation when they have a track record of actually being right.

        Remember, Ellis was the journo who predicted Latham would be Prime Minister (back when he liked Latham); and Ellis predicted that Abbott - that insane Roman Catholic whom nobody in their right mind would vote for - would be turfed out on his ear and Julia would win a handsome victory. Julia had the charisma and credentials required for Prime Ministerial office.

        How soon the adulation soured! It began when Gillard started tanking in the polls, and now that she can only govern with the assistance of a Frankenstein's monster of a coalition, sewing together disparate parts to revive the corpse of what remains of the Labor Government. Ellis changed his tune within the space of weeks; how soon (it seems) that we jettison our principles when the leader stops bringing home the bacon!

          • Bob Ellis :

            10 Sep 2010 3:03:14am

            Please stop telling lies. In these pages I predicted it would be two seats either way and in my book One Hundred Days of Summer I predicted -- in
            December last year -- that there was no way Rudd could beat Abbott, or easily beat Abbott who had the energy and variety he lacked. I further called in these pages for Gillard's dismissal and deselection after MySchool. It is wrong of you to tell these lies and I ask you to stop.

            I refer you to my last Unleashed where in satirical mode I alleged that Gillard ran her campaign so badly she must have been a DLP spy.

              • Doug Quixote :

                10 Sep 2010 2:46:01pm

                Wasn't she some sort of Russian/eastern European spy in that satirical? I suspect you don't like her, Robert.
                However that is, you have published enough predictions to have at least one to bring out and dust off for any eventuality.

  • Sunny Coaser :

    09 Sep 2010 1:22:07pm

    Great article Bob, now if you haven't already, do a similar essay on Abbott and the Opposition.

      • Bob Ellis :

        09 Sep 2010 5:01:09pm

        I've written a book on Abbott and the Opposition called One Hundred Days of Summer, one hundred thousand words long. Buy or borrow it if you're curious. It includes a dialogue with the great hairy man himself which is rivetting.

          • Sunny Coaster :

            10 Sep 2010 8:54:30am

            How many other writers/Journos/authors read and bother to reply to us. Whether you agree or disagree with the story, the fact the writer cares enough to follow the comments I believe is impressive.

  • james :

    09 Sep 2010 1:21:37pm

    Nice piece, a few home truths. Nice to hear Kurt's voice again. Australian politics from the viewpoint of Slaughter House 5.

  • Lyonwiss :

    09 Sep 2010 1:20:55pm

    Bob, You are insulting my intelligence and probably those of many others'. You failed to see the irony that you as a journalist is commenting on other journalists' influence on public opinion. Your speculation on the causal connection between the course of events and the election results is full of 'hot air' and nonsense. I try to glean facts from the news and ignore journalists' the opinions, whereas as you are full of unsubstantiated opinion and few hard facts. You are one of worst rumor mongering journalists who does little to elevate the quality of Australian journalism.

      • Lucy :

        09 Sep 2010 2:34:20pm

        But you are different from the journalists that you deplore.

        They influence public opinion. You don't.

        Had Julia Gillard used this election campaign to announce a policy of withdrawal from Afghanistan it would have been twisted and she would have been crucified as being traitorous to our glorious fighting men and women. You yourself recall what happened to Calwell " (when Arthur Calwell running against the Birthday Ballot and the Vietnam War lost 22 seats)" over Vietnam.

        Had Julia Gillard announced what role Rudd would play in the next Government, days of campaigning would have been lost in media irrelevancies over that - you would probably have devoted a whole splenetic article to it

        Politics is the art of the possible. The wonder is that Evatt (fighting the Anti-communist Bill), Whitlam (dragging Australia out of the Menzies doldrums and the Vietnam War), Hawke and Keating (modernising the Australian economy) and Gillard and Rudd (surviving the GFC) have been able to achieve anything in our would-be petty capitalist "I'm all right Jack - the Murdoch Press and Alan Jones tell me so - but you deprived people are a lot of bludgers" society.

        Gillard is now the PM, "first amongst 72 equals".

  • terence galvin :

    09 Sep 2010 1:17:04pm

    bob ellis, the grumpy old man.
    As bad as the media was throughout the election, i would have to say you are letting the public off the hook. Commentators can say what they like, but it is the individuals responsibility to find the facts, read between the lines and make informed decisions. Lots of australians did this and voted accordingly.
    But make no mistake, news ltd writers, commercial radio jocks, breakfast tv types on all channels, along with tony jones, virginia trioli etc etc were a total disgrace, more intent on making entertainment than providing information.
    The only journos worthy of the name in this election were fran kelly, kerry o'brien and karen middleton.

  • MJMI :

    09 Sep 2010 1:14:38pm

    Gotta quibble Bob. Don't think Rudd did in McMullan. McMullan was the member for my electorate and I think he has been out of sorts and ineffective for years now. I agreed with Rudd on that.

  • Bob Dobson :

    09 Sep 2010 1:12:31pm

    Just a note "..an atheist, by definition despised her religion". Garbage, an atheist doesn't by definition despise anything, by definition they choose only to not believe in god(s).

    It's true that there are atheists who do despise religions, but being an atheist doesn't automatically mean that's true, anymore than someone being Muslim means they are a terrorist.

      • Tomokatu :

        09 Sep 2010 2:19:17pm

        Or that being a Christian automatically makes one an Inquisitor.

      • jenbrad :

        09 Sep 2010 3:35:46pm

        You're right - and the non-believers aren't required to begrudge or denigrate other peoples' beliefs. I'm sure Gillard can recognise the achievement - in Catholic church terms, that is - of Mary McKillop's sainthood. Weird as the process and reasoning is (miracles, after death? huh?), it's still a "win" for the cahtolic faithful of Australia.

          • ben :

            09 Sep 2010 9:28:57pm

            I'm an atheist and I politely keep quiet when in the company of the religious and consciously try not to offend. But, when I am in a room alone with other trusted scientists only - and am questioned on religion, I happily reveal how silly I think they are. Despise, too strong a word, but ridicule and contempt for the religious make-believe. Oh yes. God, strike me down.

  • Holly :

    09 Sep 2010 1:11:40pm

    How did Swan weasel his way into the list of non media spinners? Have I misunderstood that statement?

      • Lewis of The Hills :

        09 Sep 2010 1:48:20pm

        I think it is because Swan really believes in the mining tax & would be prepared to buck the opinion polls & pursue it all the way. If it were up to Swan we would still be looking at the original RSPT despite its unpopularity & threats from the mining industry.

        I think Swan is wrong but he does have some courage & conviction on this.

      • Sheilah :

        09 Sep 2010 2:36:25pm

        Very puzzling, the way Swan spins everything and can avoid answering questions. He blackflips with doublepike. I would have thought he was the supremo.

          • Lewis of The Hills :

            09 Sep 2010 9:17:49pm

            Come on, Sheilah, Swan is a poly after all, like all the rest of them. But with the mining tax he really believes in it, even if he is barking (mad) up the wrong tree.

  • Chase :

    09 Sep 2010 1:10:37pm

    Oh Bob. Why don't you attack the Liberals more often? They're your actual enemy.

      • Graeme (the other one) :

        09 Sep 2010 5:46:16pm

        Perhaps you best make your friends fit for the battle by practise? Get your own house in order before embarking on the Crusade. (Make sure you clear out the fridge).

  • PatO'K :

    09 Sep 2010 1:08:39pm

    Sheer brilliance.Again.Thank you Bob. Once more articulating in purple prose what others are too afraid to speak or think.

  • Peter Fraser :

    09 Sep 2010 1:06:05pm

    A long overdue comment on the subversive impact the media has on this process.
    So can't we now learn from this influence, just as we ask our politicians to learn from previous mistakes? If not, why?
    Whatever our individual positions and whether we agree or disagree on the merits of the current system of Government, it is the reality. So how about exposing the opposition to it's already relentless attacks on how it will all crumble very, very soon. Doesn't this play on the general public's confidence that this system could actually work? One newspaper's front page screaming 'Good luck Australia - it's going to be a bumpy ride', with compulsory upshot of ogre Gillard...is this responsible, let alone optimist reporting on Day 1 of this 'new paradigm'? I fear it's doomed, thanks to the media and the Libs, before it even gets a chance of working.

  • rusty :

    09 Sep 2010 1:04:52pm

    What a load of bile, Bob Ellis - Mark Latham your model? I sense a hint of misogyny here, too.

  • Caro :

    09 Sep 2010 1:01:07pm

    Just another rant from someone who didn't get what they wanted. I started reading it with attention and interest, and some agreement, but then is just got into personal attack. Yawn. Ho hum ..

    What ever clarity of analysis was originally present in this article was, once again, spoilt by increasingly chronic journalists' compulsion to head-hammer us with his/her personal style of discourse, twenty times over the necessary amount required, as if their point is all the more cogent with the excess.

    And then there is the uneven handling - why no deconstruction of Abbot's equally heavy-handed media beat-up? To say nothing of changing topic half way through, from an attack on the media to an hysterics on Gillard (I bet a man wouldn't have suffered from this same treatment!)


    Bob Ellis, practice what you preach and try "the old Athenian practice" of thoughtful Socratic dialogue, instead of subjecting us to this barrage of ire.

    By the way, this "they" you keep referring to in your early paragraphs - you're one of them. And no better than the posturing David Marr with his tarty interpretation of Rob Oakenshott's speech (SMH on Tuesday).

      • greggles :

        09 Sep 2010 3:05:16pm

        Bugger politics for a change. Can the public no longer spell or punctuate? Perhaps the 'moderator' could lend the language a hand occasionally?

  • Marilyn :

    09 Sep 2010 1:00:12pm

    Our main lemming throng are worthless media. What precisely was the source or substance of Oakes gossip? Why on earth was it news that debates happen over policy issues?

    Gillard drives me crazy with her giggling and smarming all over the place but Abbott terrifies me.

    The interesting story though is the senate - the lieberal/nats are down to 34.

  • blah blah blah :

    09 Sep 2010 12:59:20pm

    What a ridiculous blancmange of an article - on the one hand Ellis is accusing the media of beat-ups, of turning ordinary questions into “livid, suppurating scandals” and then he goes on to call Gillard an assassin – yes and he even mentions Wilkes Booth and Lee Harvey Oswald. Crikey in the same breath.

    He then refers to Gillard as genderless, accuses her of secrecy, and seems to think it was of some significance that she refused to mention whether she would marry her partner or not.

    He accuses journalists Phillip Adams, Bryce Corbett Mark Latham and Laurie Oakes of either contributing to, or of finishing Gillard off, but blames Gillard herself for the election “loss”.
    Ellis ends this mess with what appears to be a presumptuous poetic reference, all of which suggests an ongoing obsession with his own self-importance.

    What is it about old lefties?

  • DMN :

    09 Sep 2010 12:59:06pm

    Is Julia the first PM to have been twice not elected?

      • emess :

        09 Sep 2010 1:41:24pm

        Oh no.

        The Libs in SA and the Nats in Qld reigned for years and years with only a minority of the State voting for them.

        I think also Playford in SA also had the support of an independent more than once. So I think he qualifies too.

        And let's see how the conservatives do in the UK. They might get that gong too.

      • bruce chan :

        09 Sep 2010 3:02:52pm

        Not bad for a PM who was 'not elected' to be able to negotiate her way into office. Too bad the same cannot be said for Tony Abbott.
        That's consensus politics at work for you.
        A lot of people miss this point about the PM: her ability and skills, intellect and her common sense approach to working with people.

      • Big Ben :

        09 Sep 2010 3:44:48pm

        Well DMN - While I feel sorry for you that your man was'nt elected, I rejoice for our great egalitarian nation that he came second.
        Just for a start Australia's wrinklies can celebrate that they will not be forced to starve and go cold so that the rich can have tax cuts.
        Secondly, all Australians get to keep that wonderful crown jewel of a just society - Medicare.
        Mate, a truly pleasant and satisfying feeling. Sorry, I gloat, but not because I find myself in a situation where I will benefit personally. I never vote with a view to me-ism!

      • Springtime_2010 :

        09 Sep 2010 5:48:08pm

        YES.
        Julia is the very First Female PM that never been elected.
        1st time was knifed her own boss.
        2nd round was installed by the 2 idiots.

        i'm sure you watched the news.

  • StaggerLee :

    09 Sep 2010 12:56:25pm

    An article constructed around a mannerism??

    Another excursion into the world of undergraduate creative writing.

    Pitiful.

  • rb :

    09 Sep 2010 12:56:09pm

    Good Bob. I'm also looking forward to your book.
    My personal theory on political journalists lately, is that they are all drinking far too much coffee. Their over-excited, central nervous systems are driving their brains, causing mindless, hyperbolic drivel day after day.
    Think about it. No, seriously.

  • mbc :

    09 Sep 2010 12:54:56pm

    Abbott stayed awake for 36 hours not two days, maybe if he had managed the 48 hours he might have made it to PM. Although I hear he might stay awake for a week to be Governor-General, and might try for a month so he gets to be Queen.

  • jeffbaby :

    09 Sep 2010 12:52:36pm

    I know Bob is a satirical writer, but please, enough of the forlorn, cynical, desolate, self-absorbed, self-indulgent, unrealistic, utopian, fantasy that this article contains. Bob rightly points out the effect that media has on politics but there is no evidence that he has thought about it from the polies' view point. How can they get a fairer go from the blood-lusting vultures of the press gallery if they act more like themselves; if they do show their true thoughts or some uncertainty or some other ultruism? Remember the times that Hawke wept for example and how the media lashed him or more recently when Rudd raised his voice just a little to Kerry O'Brien and the ABC of all outlets ran a story that he had 'lost it'! . Maybe the media should have a good look at the polies that they have created before they take a hatchet to a real person trying to do a real job for Australia. How can Australia go anywhere if this is what we really think about our leaders before they have had a chance. Give Julia a fair in the top seat. And I think she will 'go' well.

  • jenbrad :

    09 Sep 2010 12:50:05pm

    I enjoyed your slant on the election coverage, particularly the focus on nonsense elements rather than policy.

    But I think you're a tad harsh on Gillard. If I were part way through negotiating and choosing my new ministry - with all the toing and froing that entails, I wouldn't tell the public before I told the party(ies) either. And cabinet solidarity is important - to enable full debate by the ministers on issues. You have no idea (or maybe you have) the things Ministers and their departments raise for discussion, or to be thoroughly knocked down. Don't assume everything raised is believed by the person raising it.

    Of course we, the public, need to know what decisions are, but truly the who said what to whom is pretty irrelevant - it's about the political equalivalent of gossip magazines. And fits into the category of things you hated about this election.

  • a_boy :

    09 Sep 2010 12:43:24pm

    I rarely agree completely with Bob Ellis, but he's spot on with this one. The overweening attitudes of journalists scuppered the election campaign, obscuring the real achievements of the Government and allowing Abott to trumpet half truths unchallenged.

    I doubt very much whether Bob's remarks will have any effect whatsoever on the body politic or in the halls of journalism, but they should be required reading.

      • Chi :

        09 Sep 2010 2:58:29pm

        "The overweening attitudes of journalists scuppered the election campaign, obscuring the real achievements of the Government and allowing Abott to trumpet half truths unchallenged"

        Pretty much true I think. But the only reason the media can get away with it is all the lemmings.

        "Democracy cannot succeed unless those who express their choice are prepared to choose wisely. The real safeguard of democracy, therefore, is education."
        Franklin D. Roosevelt

      • Chi :

        09 Sep 2010 6:37:02pm

        Truly I think Bob had it in a nutshell in an earlier article, saying what could topple the government was a hand full of people in the Western Suburbs who thought we were being invaded by boat people, a bunch of people in the North who thought it was their exclusive right to sack Rudd and mobs in the West who've always thought the rest of Australia was bludging on them.

        The greatest obstacle to stable government and progress are two groups who are easily manipulated, racists and dimwits, the former being a subgroup of the latter.

        The Coalition and some elements of the media have been shameless perpetuators of ignorance.

  • short memories :

    09 Sep 2010 12:42:56pm

    Spot on Bob. IT is so... sad for the profession. They should be holding politicians to account not creating or breaking their targets through non transparent reporting and with no other strategy or reporting interest but to achieve this end. The tenor of politics, governance and due process is being subverted here not assisted.

  • topend :

    09 Sep 2010 12:38:10pm

    Bob

    Can you please do a simlar article, well research and poignant on Tony in the same period.

    And to be fair one on Bob Brown - afte all he considers himslf a leader of major party now with a mandate.

  • Brian Westley :

    09 Sep 2010 12:36:19pm

    "though the Prime Minister, an atheist, by definition despised her religion"

    What a stupid statement. Atheists don't despise anything by definition; atheists are just not theists.

  • Charlot :

    09 Sep 2010 12:33:10pm

    1) Many thanks for reminding us so insightfully (no irony intended) of the political influence of the press.
    2) Only Dawkins-atheists might despise the McKillop-religion.
    3) Wouldn't it be more helpful to put up a warning sign for the lemmings and do something about the cliff infrastructure?

      • yen :

        14 Sep 2010 5:00:08pm

        Quote:
        "...
        Only Dawkins-atheists might despise the McKillop-religion.
        ....."

        Muslims *also* despise 'the McKillop-religion'.

  • Carolyn R :

    09 Sep 2010 12:25:38pm

    And so democracy wins!! Forgot what it is, well you all have just been witness to it, in all its glory! I think the restoration of democracy was long, long overdue. I see however, that the opposition are still clinging to the past as usual and that is where we would have all ended up. While MrAbbot is patting his members on the back for their loss, the real job of governing this great country is moving forward, yes forward. We now have a real democracy and hopefully balance restored. Here, here for democracy!!!!

  • Pythagoras :

    09 Sep 2010 12:22:45pm

    Ah, for a good skewering, ey, Bob!
    Don't let us stop you, darling.

    But the media, though! The media!
    A madman in the States wants to burn a Koran so the whole world knows. All the big boys and girls get their knickers and their knickerbockers in Gordian twists.
    The skewers are always there because we haven't moved forward from the dark days of bear baiting, at least not by much.
    And it was a contest, though, wasn't it? Who'd do the most skewering. The journos or the pollies themselves. You say the journos won, I'd say both, journos and pollies lost but far more importantly,though, Bob, I feel that somehow, through some bizarre and incomprehensible divine intervention, this time, the demos has won.
    At least by a little.

  • Uncle Fester :

    09 Sep 2010 12:22:07pm

    With such clear understanding of the situation, please Bob, what would you do to change things, not for the sake of any political party or standing of any given leader, but for the country itself?

    And so it goes....

  • the yank :

    09 Sep 2010 12:21:59pm

    I don't think you helped much Bob.
    How many of your brothers or sisters are praising Labor for their economic achievements?
    none. while the rest of the OECD countries struggle Australia os if not booming at least thriving. Latest economic news? Unemployment down to 5.1%. Unheard of across the OECD. And yet no praise from anyone.
    Just nonsense about Labor's supposed failures with an opposition that has no other purpose in life then to ruin the government no matter what pain it causes.
    What in the hell does this country want?

      • custard :

        09 Sep 2010 2:18:40pm

        Yank,

        The country wants good government, something that has been missing for 3 years. Simple really.

          • StaggerLee :

            11 Sep 2010 6:22:36am

            Sheer nonsense custard.

      • Lewis of The Hills :

        09 Sep 2010 3:10:53pm

        "And yet no praise from anyone."

        Perhaps because no one believes it was to the Labor government's credit.

        ...or if it was then the man mostly responsible is now dumped like yesterday's garbage.

          • socrates :

            09 Sep 2010 5:33:11pm

            Lewis - forgive the Yank his rather obvious prejudice. It allows those of us more towards the middle to provide some balance. Also it keeps us amused in an sometimes dreary world.

              • StaggerLee :

                11 Sep 2010 6:27:57am

                You are mistaken socrates - those of you "in the middle" don't provide balance.... You fence boys rationalise and have a sideline swipe and take a bob each way, you pontificate and muddy the waters with hypotheticals, you furnish the dull with argument and you decry the idea of "tribes" when you know, you know, that that's what this adversarial game is ALL about.
                You lot are, at best, indifferent - at worst, cowards.

                Our argument is with you as it is with the others.

                Balance?!?!? ............ I ask you.......

          • StaggerLee :

            11 Sep 2010 6:26:23pm

            ...because you found oecd figures, unemployment numbers, inflation rates ...uninteresting... whilst somehow getting yourself all...entranced....all bewitched....by the coalition/media propaganda.

            that's why you fell for the "Labor is bad" line,

            they thought, and thought correctly, if they keep the syllable count down they would grab half the country....
            Well waddya know?

      • Bob117 :

        09 Sep 2010 3:46:55pm

        Well said "the yank". Unfortunately good news is actually no longer good news. Simon Crean held a press conference this morning concerning the latest unemployment figures and guess what, true to form one of the "journalist" from Sky News, Gilbert or Speers didn't want to hear about these important facts he attempted to distract Mr Crean with some stupid, inane question about the new cabinet. Thankfully Mr Crean basically told him to get back in his box and to wait until the issues he had called the press conference were presented. Well done Simon Crean.

      • Dazza :

        10 Sep 2010 3:28:31pm

        The coalition and their supporters want the "haves" and the "have nots". Why else would they support "no choice individual contracts"? Eric Abetz's "tweaking" of the Fair Work Act to support his dictorial style of government over the young, vulnerable workers.

        They don't want balanced, fair policies that benefit both the working poor and the well-off, just look at Howard when he gained control of the Senate, his worst enemy before and calling for reform, to his best friend, gagging debate when it suited him and making the Senate a laughing stock. Look after the rich at the expense of the not so well off, that's the Liberal way.

  • Armidale Outsider :

    09 Sep 2010 12:21:56pm

    Some good commentary on the despicable Canberra media set. Marr posing as a psychiatrist; Shanahan as a the public saviour etc. etc. Interesting stuff, if a bit crazy too.

  • mark :

    09 Sep 2010 12:21:53pm

    As usual, Bob is pretty much spot on... its such a pity he couldn't unseat Bronwyn Bishop all those years ago... he could have done this country a real service on two counts.
    I hope there'll be a follow up assessment of the Coalition

  • bitrich :

    09 Sep 2010 12:21:12pm

    It should have been obvious with her first speech as PM. With all its talk about hard work, family and education it could have been written by a Liberal. But even a Liberal wouldn't have declared that every Australian has the birthright of electing their own PM. Now, it should be clear to all that we don't.

  • drjohn :

    09 Sep 2010 12:18:34pm

    As irreverent,knowledgeable, anti-establishment, insightful and incisive as ever.
    On yer Bob.

  • Groucho :

    09 Sep 2010 12:16:34pm

    Looks like the cliff has lower unemployment Bob.Are you saying that is a bad thing? Would you like us all on the dole instead?

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/09/3007054.htm

  • Paradise :

    09 Sep 2010 12:15:01pm

    Quick, an alkaline douche! Poor Bob, expecting something remarkable from these candidates and their surrounding cliques of friendly fire experts. Both tried so hard to lose, leaving us with a Katter to get unprecedented time to gibber and rave. If we can screw out nine months of this peculiar political recipe, we'll get the Greens in the senate, coming in decisively like Blucher for Wellington. Aren't we all tired enough?

  • Haha :

    09 Sep 2010 12:12:59pm

    Gillard has already driven the car over the cliff.

    After tumbling and spinning down the side, it has now come to a stop as a crippled and mangled heap. Now her voters are looking over the side with concealed grimaces, waiting for the kaboom.

      • the yank :

        09 Sep 2010 12:23:01pm

        What in the heck are you talking about?

      • Dazza :

        09 Sep 2010 1:31:14pm

        But!! There was already a burnt out car with the body of John W Howard in it with his beloved WorkChoices document in his hand that somehow survived the inferno. Tony Abbott plying water on Gillard's car so he won't lose the precious document forever. Gillard survives and Abbott has the document to be revived at a future date, if he ever becomes PM!!

          • Haha :

            09 Sep 2010 1:56:56pm

            Or so the ALP supporters believed.

            But those ALP supporters also believed Gillard knew how to drive. And before that, those supporters also believed Rudd was going to win the race hands down.

            So clearly, their opinions are not exactly something to base reality on.

            If they could not guess how the ALP would crash and burn on election day, how can they claim to know what Abbott will or won't do?

          • shaila :

            09 Sep 2010 3:10:35pm

            What a load of nonsense.....

          • chipinga :

            09 Sep 2010 3:21:29pm

            Gillard in a desparate effort to save herself from a burning wreck makes promises to Brown, Oakshott, Windsor and Wilkie to save her...knowing full well she can never deliver on those promises.

            Meanwhile Abbott from the top looks down...

            ...

              • Dazza :

                09 Sep 2010 4:14:12pm

                And suddenly has a bright idea, "Instead of upsetting the billionaire mining magnates, let's increase the rate of the GST so all the low income scum can pay for all my promises and fill in the big hole in my costings, and with the rest I'll give tax breaks to all those high income and rich people."

              • Lewis of The Hills :

                09 Sep 2010 9:26:19pm

                Love it! Where do I sign up?

              • Springtime_2010 :

                09 Sep 2010 5:54:50pm

                I'm so agreed with you - "Meanwhile Abbott from the top looks down..."

                Abbott is the winner not a loser if the people have a think about it.

  • P Wright :

    09 Sep 2010 12:12:45pm

    Well done bob Ellis, you are absolutely right.
    Although the ABC claims to be impartial its employees are definatoly not.
    All through the election campaign we have been inundated with personal views of newsreaders and commentators ect. No wonder the general public are unable to make informed decisions with so much media intereference.
    A good example was on 24hr news on abc this morning. An enlightening interview with Simon Crean was followed by derogatory remarks from the news staff. (Names unknown but known in our house as tweedledum and tweedledee).
    This behaviour is repeated ad infinitum through the whole day.

      • Holly :

        09 Sep 2010 1:14:34pm

        Yes, and aren't ABC journos becoming increasingly smug?

  • custard :

    09 Sep 2010 12:11:51pm

    Gee Bob you certainly don't need us conservatives to add anything more to this commentry. Well come on you lefties do you agree with Bob?

      • jusme ®:

        09 Sep 2010 12:44:54pm

        yes, well i do anyway.

        the media can improve. surely both 'sides' can't argue with that.
        gillard isn't ideal but since we couldn't get bob brown as pm, i reckon this minority is the next best thing.

        it's a step in the right direction :)

      • bwaha :

        09 Sep 2010 12:49:37pm

        of course - it would be silly not too. and the reason latham lost, was there was enough labor voters who could see it would be mad to have him as pm.

        unlike conservatives, who continually vota against their own interests, and who still think that because dillard is such a fool, tony abbott is some sort of hero.

        even without all of labors help at the last election, abbott was still unable to form a government. what the hell does that tell you?

        well come on all you conservatives, do you think m rabbit is some sort of hero?

          • Lewis of The Hills :

            09 Sep 2010 3:06:34pm

            Yep. He's got those 16 scalps hanging off his belt, PLUS the head of a popular 1st term sitting PM, PLUS the kneecaps of Australia's 1st female PM. Not bad for 9 months work.

            Looking forward to the next 18 months.

              • jaycee :

                09 Sep 2010 5:30:36pm

                AHH! yes, but he looked like he'd had a swift kick in the cajones when he shook hands with Julia the other night!

              • Springtime_2010 :

                09 Sep 2010 6:02:36pm

                "Looking forward to the next 18 months."

                Then we will go back to the POLL?

                Yes, I'd like it so much.

              • Lewis of The Hills :

                09 Sep 2010 9:21:49pm

                Ha ha ha. You're right, I wouldn't like it much either but you can always just pay the fine :-)

              • Lucy :

                09 Sep 2010 10:23:10pm

                If Tony Abbott were "the wild man from Borneo" creeping through the jungle hunting for a few tasty joints from human prey to pop into his cooking pot, he would be delighted with "16 scalps hanging off his belt, PLUS the head of a popular 1st term sitting PM, PLUS the kneecaps of Australia's 1st female PM".

                However, he would hardly be a statesman who desired to put the welfare of his country ahead of his own appetites and ambitions.

              • Springtime_2010 :

                10 Sep 2010 7:54:20pm

                You would think Tony Abbott is that bad.
                Just don't underestimate someone or something if you are not sure. So far he is doing very well.
                Who knows what would happens just like Malcom Turbull got voted off by his party.

              • yen :

                14 Sep 2010 5:13:27pm

                Quote:
                "...
                If Tony Abbott were "the wild man from Borneo"
                ...."

                The "wild men from Borneo" protest.

                Some of the 'not-so-wild' also dislike the term.

      • old bill :

        09 Sep 2010 1:40:43pm

        yep

      • Simon :

        09 Sep 2010 1:50:52pm

        sorry, whats a lefty again? I remember my teacher saying somthing about that and the second war but i wasnt listening. a lefty wants hospitals and schools and a righty wants money and slaves?

        whats that got to do with labor and liberal party?

          • custard :

            09 Sep 2010 10:36:18pm

            "but i wasnt listening."

            Perhaps if you were listening you would now know what you clearly dont know.

      • Leftie :

        09 Sep 2010 4:15:52pm

        I don't think you get it, custard.

        What Bob is having a go at is, in essence, the lack of any difference between the two major parties, and the media's perpetration of same.

        Same Same.

          • custard :

            09 Sep 2010 8:41:41pm

            Leftie

            I believe there is a huge divide between Labor and Liberal. I do believe that Labor shifted way to the right (boats) and Abbott was so frightened he couldn't even talk about industrial relations (workchoices).

            Its still the coalition for me.

            Ever considered when listening particularly to ABC news articles that conveniently stories always seem to finish with a Labor point of view or comment.

            I believe there is a left bias in the media in general.

            And no I dont read the Australian its crap.

              • Doug Quixote :

                10 Sep 2010 8:15:37am

                So now we know - its been all those left-bias media criticising the federal government so remorselessly over the last six months or more.
                How about this one : if the govt is being criticised by both left and right, it must by definition be in the middle. And doing quite well.

              • StaggerLee :

                11 Sep 2010 6:32:40am

                custard - rubbish.
                Just two from this week, one day actually.

                ABC didn't lead, cover (more than 2 paragraphs) or open for discussion Robb's "brain-snap".

                ABC deceitfully manipulated the Windsor/Costings story on Monday morn.

                Both disgraceful, both contrary to your opinion.

  • Ben W :

    09 Sep 2010 12:10:30pm

    I think journalists wouldn't have played such a large role in this election if either leader had stood for what they believed in and run a value based, uncompromising campaign. As it was JG appeared to believe in nothing other than appeasing as many voters as possible and TA spent the whole time trying to back away from what he clearly believed in.

    The journalists, particularly Kerry and Laurie, did exactly what they were supposed to do. They held Australia's leaders to account and it isn't the journos fault that they withered in the spotlight.

    Let this be a lesson, future aspirants to the throne.

      • fehowarth :

        09 Sep 2010 1:23:29pm

        No, they did not hold either party to account. What they did was indulge in gossip, scare mongering and gotcha questions. The media did not do or at the best very little evaluation of policy. Most ignored both parties’ policies. Many in the media did not question false information given out by many people. I am not sure whether they did not know what they repeated was false or they choose not to question. Many of the reporters and journalists appear to be bias or poorly educated in politics, the standards of the ABC have sunk to the level of the MSM. Are they inept or are they seeking jobs in the MSM.

  • Malcolm :

    09 Sep 2010 12:09:21pm

    Aaaaah yes - but what you fail to mention is that Abbott failed to get up through a mixture of pre-poll hubris and post-poll inability to negotiate with the independents. Perhaps one of them will learn from this encounter with the voters - I'm betting on Gillard being more pragmatic and therefore more capable of building on it. Abbott is still too much the love-child of Howard, and Howard is yesterday's man like Rudd.

      • JohnM :

        09 Sep 2010 12:57:01pm

        Abbott gained a heap of seat, Gillard didn't.

        Abbott doesn't have to be a cat herder to try to get things through parliament, Gillard does.

        The winner is obvious.

          • Malcolm :

            09 Sep 2010 2:51:40pm

            "Abbott doesn't have to be a cat herder to try to get things through parliament, ..."

            Well no, but then as he is in opposition he can't anyway.

              • Graeme (the other one) :

                09 Sep 2010 5:58:48pm

                Bob Sparkles Brown has encouraged Abbott to put forward new legislation. 'My budget is your budget', almost. Its going to be interesting.

              • Haha :

                09 Sep 2010 8:46:09pm

                "Well no, but then as he is in opposition he can't anyway."

                What? The opposition can't introduce or pass legislation?

                Guess again. They only need one independent to cross the floor.

          • Bob117 :

            09 Sep 2010 3:58:25pm

            Abbott may have gained a heap of seats, by default, thanks to illinformed, negative, policy free fear mungering electioneering and biased media reporting, but still not heaps enough to actually gain power. Thankfully the Independents saw through the patronising "I love the bush." comments and know that the Coalition in government did and does nothing for the bush, and took the appropriate action.

      • fehowarth :

        09 Sep 2010 1:25:16pm

        My bet is that Ms. Gillard will be around longer than her oppositive number.

      • Simon :

        09 Sep 2010 1:52:42pm

        Say goodbye to Abott as they always shoot leaders who lose elections. There will be a new leader of the Libs within weeks..

          • Graeme (the other one) :

            09 Sep 2010 5:59:57pm

            That's the first of your three wishes wasted.

          • Haha :

            09 Sep 2010 8:47:19pm

            Say goodbye to Gillard.

            The ALP have a reputation for shafting leaders. Whether they win an election or not.

      • Leftie :

        09 Sep 2010 4:17:36pm

        Agree, and Abbott should have won an un-losable election in my view.

          • Springtime_2010 :

            10 Sep 2010 7:56:48pm

            I agreed. Abbott is a winner in my view.

  • chipinga :

    09 Sep 2010 12:04:59pm

    'See how she goes.'

    That is the big question?

    I cannot see how this Gillard government can survive, let alone govern.. There are far to many considerations to deal with now, just to bring in a single policy will be a miracle, not to mention heavily watered down.

    Labor can only offer a compromise, at best, after all which of their major policies will remain as offered pre-election?

    The mining tax, where is that going? will it be a substitute to royalties tax?..if so what will the states get in return? Already there is a projected 8 billion shortfall in the mining tax over the next two years, where's the extra funds comming from? Brown wants a 40% mining tax of which the majority of the funds set aside for future soverign purposes. Where is the 43 billion NBN funds come from if the mining tax does not provide? Investors are already getting very nervous and edgy over the mining tax..its all up in the air again, courtesy of Windsor and Oakshott ( keep at the bastards).

    Carbon tax will kill Gillard in a heart beat...yet she has agreed to consider the tax..she had to, just to make the numbers up to govern. This is going to be one to watch...!

    Te Libs will be a force to reckon with this time around and will be a formidable opposition...they will be watching Oakshott and Windsor reminding them to keep Labor honest..

    There is absolutely no doubt that the presure on Gillard will be intense..from within and opposite..

      • the yank :

        09 Sep 2010 12:26:37pm

        Abbott according to the independents offered them everything but the kitchen sink and they didn't buy it.
        A new election may well happen but it won't be because Gillard didn’t try. It would happen because Abbott's destroy the government at all cost will have succeeded.

          • chipinga :

            09 Sep 2010 3:25:47pm

            Geez Yank, you give Abbott so much power ...all Gillard has to do...is the the impossible...GOVERN!

      • luke warm :

        09 Sep 2010 12:35:28pm

        "I cannot see how this Gillard government can survive, let alone govern."

        And so what about the alternative? An Abbott government would have had FIVE separate parties, plus at least 3 independents.

          • Haha :

            09 Sep 2010 2:10:24pm

            The Coalition, even having many parts, still share many values and policy views. And they have shown they can act together for some time.

            The Greens, Independents and ALP are only united by one real policy: They didn't want the Coalition in charge.

            Aside from that, they will tear themselves apart. Which will only worsen when the Greens start throwing their weight around in the senate.

      • fehowarth :

        09 Sep 2010 1:29:40pm

        Is not all politics compromise? Is it not politics the art of the possible? All policies can be improved, no matter what side of politics.

      • tin man :

        09 Sep 2010 1:56:46pm

        The mining tax will, I believe fail. Pressure is mounting from all sides. Swan has picked the best out of the Henry review, that is, higher tax and more of it.

        This is a worthy read.


        http://www.smh.com.au/national/labors-mining-tax-headache-is-back-20100908-14ztb.html

  • Dan :

    09 Sep 2010 12:02:42pm

    A real gem Bob, looking forward to the book.

  • craigbrisb :

    09 Sep 2010 12:02:09pm

    Alas Bob that is politics....

    I like the fact that we have some independant rumblings festering in the cracks of our democracy..

    Get Turnbull onto the front bench (he seems to have a bit of leadership)

    I still don't understand why Australians are happy to have young Australian men killed in the outrageous corrupt war in Afghanistan...lets get Wilke to throw some light on that shall we?

      • socrates :

        09 Sep 2010 12:25:24pm

        Agree with you on Afghanistan. The last guy to win a war there was Genghis Khan. And in those days there was no media or civil rights movement.

  • OLD MAN :

    09 Sep 2010 12:01:52pm

    Yep! Bob,what an unreal world we enjoy in Oz with an electorate of which at least 50% are as idiotic as the media.
    Our economy the envy of the world at present and these idiots wish to get rid of a government which got us there.
    God help us if we had any real problems,say as the poor people in Pakistan or Iraq suffer.
    As McMillan told the Poms many years ago"You have never had it so good".Stop your bloody whingeing.

      • dmc :

        09 Sep 2010 12:19:11pm

        Howard said that (You've never had it so good) when it really was true and the ALP and the unions crucified him for it!!

      • keyboard :

        09 Sep 2010 12:35:14pm

        "Our economy the envy of the world at present and these idiots wish to get rid of a government which got us there"

        So just who are "these idiots"? About 50% of the Australian voting public I assume.


        Clearly you have little understanding of how a globalised economy works. Nether side can claim credit for our economy's health. Demand for our resources is the reason OLD MAN. Remove Asia from the equation and let's see how wonderful a debt addicted Labor government looks.

      • JohnM :

        09 Sep 2010 12:57:51pm

        Only 50%? You must have learned that through the media.

      • Tonto :

        09 Sep 2010 1:13:48pm


        'As McMillan told the Poms many years ago"You have never had it so good".Stop your bloody whingeing."

        Yeah ! Thanks Old Man !

        I seem to recall another successful Australian PM utter a similar thing about working families in Australia in 2007 and he was ridiculed out of office and even his own seat !

        Look what we have ended with, ever since !

        Perhaps a War or major Financial Depression is needed to jolt us from our lanquid appreciation of our position, and to finally take a serious interest in our future and who is best to guide our way ! Until then we will follow the rules of Masterchef and Big Brother and become cannon fodder to the spin doctors and strategists that dictate our options.

  • John O :

    09 Sep 2010 12:01:05pm

    Been a bad time for you hasn't it Bob? The ALP I voted for many years ago is dead buried I'm afraid. This deal done with the Greens will be the end of the ALP.

    Brown has already started putting their plans for Death Duties out there (yes you Green drongos you voted for this) and now they want to pick and choose the LNP policies they like and pass them through the lower house. They have already offered to put the LNP Mental health policy and paid parental leave policy in place...

    So you tell me - who is really in power and how long will this mess last?

      • Nina :

        09 Sep 2010 12:12:11pm

        Why don't you go all the way with the empty rhetoric and call it the "death tax"? It only applies to estates exceeding 5 million dollars, but let's forget about that for the moment. Why was there a swing to the Greens? People want them to have more power. If you don't like that then perhaps democracy isn't the right system for you.

          • ateday :

            09 Sep 2010 12:33:42pm

            Onya Nina....
            Perhaps we might, just might, get some saving the Environment type policies.
            Something that could/would never happen under Abbott.

          • JohnM :

            09 Sep 2010 12:59:06pm

            Why this discrimination in tax? What right do you are anyone else have to say how much someone else must pay?

              • IguanaDon ®:

                09 Sep 2010 1:41:29pm

                Because discrimination as a policy is not necessarily bad (in fact, discrimination, if efficient, can in many cases be the goal). People, parties, and governments discriminate all the time.

                If there was no discrimination, BHP Billiton and a beggar would be paying exactly the same number of dollars in tax.

              • Nina :

                09 Sep 2010 1:57:30pm

                If no-one devises mechanisms for determining how much tax individuals must pay then they won't pay anything, will they? The exact same principle operates quite well for income tax thresholds- but again, for the sake of empty rhetoric let's ignore that.

          • DavidFM :

            09 Sep 2010 3:29:41pm

            OK, It IS a death tax. I wont have $5m when I go, but i support a family's right to hand on their wealth and estates and not have to break them up. It's the politics of envy that is in play here again - very ugly.
            And those extremely wealthy folks will find a way around it don't you know, through family trusts, overseas accounts etc. The people who get slugged are the ones who started a family business, worked hard and turned it into a success. When will the left learn not to fiddle!?

          • yen :

            14 Sep 2010 5:28:52pm

            Quote:
            "....
            Why don't you go all the way with the empty rhetoric and call it the "death tax"? It only applies to estates exceeding 5 million dollars, but let's forget about that for the moment.
            ...."

            It only applies to estates exceeding 5 million dollars - now.
            Later it can more easily be modified to apply to a lower figure.

      • luke warm :

        09 Sep 2010 12:33:39pm

        "Death duties" doesn't worry me. I was raised with the idea that I should make my own way in the world, not bludge on my parents. My father's estate (God bless him) came to less than three months wages (shared between 3 of us) and it worried me not a jot. He had made sure I already had the most important things - a decent education and an understanding that if you want something you have to work for it.

        I'll be doing my best to spend most of mine before I shuffle off. You could always avoid death duties by doing the same yourself.

      • jusme ®:

        09 Sep 2010 12:57:55pm

        i'm pretty sure the death duties only apply to those that can easily afford it.

        but why wouldn't they bring in LNP policies if they're good? you're the drongo if you'd knock back a good idea just 'cos it wasn't yours.

        p.s. i doubt they'll accept the libs parental leave scheme. but you're allowed to make stuff up.

      • Simon :

        09 Sep 2010 1:58:48pm

        That's great news, a death tax on plus $5Mil is way overdue. That and actually charging mining companies for the raw materials they simply dig up and send overseas are great steps forward for the Australian people. Not so good for the faceless owners overseas no doubt. Personally, I am more concerned with Australians than foreign investors and shareholders.

      • selling the work ethic :

        09 Sep 2010 3:30:33pm

        My old accountant grandfather, who went through 2 world wars and a depression , often said that the only way to get the wealthy to pay their fair share of taxes was death duties...tax avoidance by the rich is rampant. Bring 'em back..the greens have the right idea on this.

  • Chris :

    09 Sep 2010 12:00:20pm

    Bob,
    A good article and in effect it gets to the core of the problem and that is the way politicians need to adapt to the "new paradigm" (I think we'll hate that before too long) - the real paradigm is the need for pollies to articulate their policies into a 15 second grab. This is just not possible and there is no real analysis of each party's policies.

    It relies on focus groups as to what the majority will see as a win for one side or the other. I am also surprised at the invective that a lot of voters are targeting at both parties given that there has been no real policy analysis. Largely, I blame a lot of this on both the journalists who are delivering base "news" and the gullible who accept this base as given and see it as the reality.

    Can't we look at some vision and what is good for the country? Maybe it's time to re-examine the adversarial way of our system?

      • Simon :

        09 Sep 2010 2:07:40pm

        Chris, people who talk of "paradigm" should be put in a small hole in the ground, along with "Learnings" and other such nonsense.
        The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines this usage as "a philosophical and theoretical framework of a scientific school or discipline within which theories, laws, and generalisations and the experiments performed in support of them are formulated. Australian politics, whilst complex are not a science.

      • Leftie :

        09 Sep 2010 4:31:02pm

        yes, but I think something more fundamental needs to change, and it's in the politician's interests to do so. Don't be so available to the media all the time. We all saw how Rudd scheduled all his policy announcements purely according to media time cycles and this did him no good at all. What's wrong with politicians drawing a line in the sand and just not making themselves available at the drop of a hat to have some useless conversation about nothing? I see JG fielding questions and I think, just say "pass, you idiot"!!

  • Enough Please :

    09 Sep 2010 11:54:47am

    "They raised some ordinary questions of ordinary behaviour and pretended they were important, beating them up, as they were trained to do, into livid, suppurating scandals."

    I for one am so heartily sick of journalsits thinking they are the story and not the policies of the respective parties

    Australian journalists have lost the plot on self interest as far as I'm concerned and are a blight on our democracy.

    O'Brien, Oakes, Milne, Uhlman and the list goes on. More concerned with their own egos than the ethics of the profession and the national interest.

    A pox on all their houses

      • Joyce :

        09 Sep 2010 12:44:00pm

        Thanks, 'Enough Please'. Well observed. The contradictions present in Bob Ellis' analysis
        is another aspect of sensationalist reporting. Bob is as ferocious in his opinions of PM Gillard, and a Gillard led Government, as the worst of our journalists. Why not write, speak up, in the national interest and forget about the perceived kudos criticism for the sake of criticism could bring - what a way to make a life and a living.

      • Robru :

        09 Sep 2010 3:09:06pm

        Bravo. The journos have certainly given all of us a load of rubbish presented as facts. Journos should have their pay cut for every article they print with their opinions all laid out, they are supposedly paid to report the facts. With such weak mindless reporters it's no wonder the election campaigns were a shambles on both sides.

      • ben :

        09 Sep 2010 10:11:45pm

        Ok, we want journalistic quality. I agree, I really do - and thus I am the reluctant pedant:

        "A plague o' both your houses!"

        Tony Oh and Julie Ah, I am sped.

  • wen shan :

    09 Sep 2010 11:53:40am

    at last some intelligent analysis of our political debates - I agree but the hung parliament is the result of both sides not winning over the public - and I'd say it would take tremendous flexibility, or "multi-tasking" thinking to lead a minority government and in the end of the day the independents saw it - a woman's job - the toughest prime ministerialship in modern memory

  • socrates :

    09 Sep 2010 11:49:38am

    Bob - you of all people should be mindful of the old definition of journalism: it tells you what to think about, not what to think. If the politicians have not learned this, then they deserve all they get. However, I always enjoy your contributions - they make a delightful distraction from the usual turgid pieces.

      • JohnM :

        09 Sep 2010 1:01:04pm

        The definition must have been written by a journalist. Of course they tell us what to think, and they do that by slanting their reports or showing only certain points of view. And once the public starts repeating these points of view the journalists continue and say that it's what the people want to hear.

          • socrates :

            09 Sep 2010 1:40:23pm

            Yes - but you do have a choice and you should exercise it.

      • Joyce :

        09 Sep 2010 4:00:21pm

        Boom. Boom.

  • NoNo :

    09 Sep 2010 11:49:20am

    Great summation and insight of an area where no sunlight will ever be allowed to shine. The best article I have read on the roar in the last year.

    I am sick to death of reporters starting their articles with 'last night I was talking to my partner/child/best friend' etc etc who cares? Where are those great editors of a bygone age?

    Where do we go to get REAL reportage and not emotional pap? Nowhere - tragic really.

      • kath Grant. :

        09 Sep 2010 12:43:39pm

        I totally agree NoNo, and isn't it sad that the best political piece written during this debacle comes too late to help anyone?

          • petros :

            09 Sep 2010 2:24:05pm

            I agree. This sums it up Bob very nicely. At home here we have remarked on a series of distorted stories whipped into a cream of discontent by journos for the leading edge. So many trivial issues shouldered aside truth in their haste.
            I would suggest however that some were quite intentional. Still waiting for Lauire to reveal his "true" source. Technically he was the admiral of the fleet which sunk Labor. Now Julia is faced with a extra crew members who, at best, are bucaneers. Maybe she should hoist the Jolly Roger and blast a few. Abbott is well trained to be waiting overboard to give them a new uniform.